On 9/13/2017 11:07 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 9:52 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 9:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 9:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:53 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 8:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/13/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/13/17 7:58 AM, justan wrote:


Governor Rick Scott has been getting high marks for his efforts to
* prepare Florida for the disaster.


Does that make up for the huge criminal enterprise Scott ran
prior to being governor? You know, the one that earned a $1.7
billion fine for Medicare fraud?

Florida is not prepared. If Scott really were concerned about
Florida, he'd be spearheading a statewide effort to stop
development in low-lying coastal areas, and begin a process of
condemning and tearing down susceptible structures in those
areas, outlawing mobile homes, and slowing growth generally.
Florida is going to get hit again and again and again by these
large summer and fall hurricanes, and everyone is going to pace
the price for them.

We have a low-lying area a few miles north of here, called
Chesapeake Beach, a quaint little nameplace full of old cottages
and a growing amount of new construction. Nice place, except when
Chesapeake Bay overflows and floods homes and businesses for four
blocks up from the high water line. That area is a foot or two
above sea level. Maybe. Why construction in these places is
allowed is beyond my comprehension.

I think the national flood insurance program ought to be dropped
and replaced by a state-by-state funded program for those states
that want it. Let Floridians, Texas, Louisianians, et cetera, pay
the price for their folly of never-ending construction along
low-lying waterfronts, typically built on "reclaimed" land.
Alternately, if the states won't provide flood insurance and
mortage companies won't finance homes without flood insurance,
well, that eventually will solve the problem.

Oh, we're close to the Bay, but...we're about 115' above sea
level here. If the Bay floods us, it is the end of the world.


You won't flood but a direct hit of a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane would
do some serious damage to your famous red barn.



Flooding of low-lying seashore areas during a hurricane from
Florida to Texas is pretty much inevitable. Cat 4 or 5 hurricane
winds up here would be a rarity, but a possibility. We have some
large trees that if uprooted could certainly smash through the
roof. We've had a few storms with high winds...70-90 mph...but so
far our big trees have survived. I've had a few cut down over the
years, but we still have a few that make me nervous.

The point is, federal flood insurance should NOT be available to
property owners in shore areas that keep getting hit. The states
should be restricting growth in those areas and funding state flood
insurance. Building a home in the Keys, for example, is the height
of arrogance and stupidity.

Well, this is a rare occasion where I agree with you.* Not sure I'd
go as far as prohibiting development of privately held land in those
areas but it should be solely at the owner's risk with no state or
federal aid available to rebuild following a hurricane.* Next comes
the question of the use of state or federal rescue resources should
a resident find him/herself trapped after being warned to evacuate.
Is the progressive-liberal mentality ready to just let them die?


Death panels seem to be a child of the GOP majority in Congress.

No, I think rescues should be attempted when possible. But I don't
think first responders should be sent out and risk their lives in the
height of a dangerous storm to save those too stupid to save
themselves after clear and repeated warnings were given.

Your constant slams on "progressive-liberal" are as funny as your
support of Trump, and are just as foolish. Just about every bit of
social progress this country has made is the result of actions by
progressive liberals who were fought every step of the way by you
conservative regressives.


Read up on where and how the "progressive" movement originated.
Hasn't changed much since it's inception.



Yes, Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson were progressives.


Nice try, but no, they were not.