On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:25:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 7/25/17 11:04 AM, wrote:
Ninety seven million people signed up for Medicaid last year, so this
is not really allowing people to buy affordable care, it is free
health care, that we do not actually pay for. We borrow the money from
our kids.
When CBO says the proposed changes will cause 24 million to "lose"
health care they don't say that 19 million of them will simply choose
not to buy it because they dropped the mandate. At a certain point,
when they come back with a "pre existing condition" or just show up
sick, **** them. If they are really poor, they got medicaid anyway and
if they had the money and chose to buy "stuff" with it instead of
insurance, go bankrupt and lose that "stuff".
We won't replace your house or your car if you refuse to insure it.



Your only significant and revealing post to date in our national
provision of health care challenge:

"At a certain point, when they come back with a "pre existing condition"
or just show up sick, **** them."

"**** them." How very Republican Libertarian of you.


I notice you trimmed the part where I said to make them financially
liable for their treatment.

Eligibility for Medicaid is, for the most part, determined by means. If
you cannot afford medical bills or medical insurance, you might be able
to qualify for Medicaid.

Private medical insurance that actually covers the cost of decent care
is very expensive and has been for many decade. The Republican babble
about free markets driving down the cost of health insurance and making
it more competitive is nothing more than right-wing bull****. I doubt
there is a modern country on the face of the earth where the "free
market" and "competition" are in play in keeping down costs of medical
insurance to consumers.

The private health insurance industry does nothing to contain costs. It
needs to be replaced.

That is going a lot farther than your "single payer" plan then isn't
it. Would your wife be happy to be a government doctor, making a set
wage that would have to be lower if we really wanted to cut costs.
Would you want to go to a government doctor?
You will end up with 2 tiers of medical care, like UK.
We are actually moving that way anyhow.

BTW there is not really any competition in the health care business
except in procedures that are not covered by insurance like Lasik
surgery.
Those prices are lower than what happens in "insured" care.
There is also pressure to limit the number of providers by the
doctor's union. (AMA)