On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 4:53:39 AM UTC-7, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/19/17 11:45 PM, wrote:
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 11:20:46 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 6/19/17 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:00:00 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 6/19/17 12:05 PM, wrote:


I am still waiting for more information before I start jumping to
conclusions.
I have seen the track of the freighter but I have not seen that laid
down over the track of the destroyer. There is a lot of chatter out
there but not much that has been confirmed.

As for the ship itself, WWII pretty much proved big heavily armored
"battleships" were just bigger targets. They were really only useful
for shore bombardment. Light and fast is better than slow and tough
because armor seldom actually stood up to a large naval rifle in the
first place. Most naval museums seem to show a piece of armor over a
foot thick with a bullet hole in it. These days the hole is likely to
be through the deck anyway, even from a missile.


Well, I'm betting on lack of knowledge of what happens or can happen at
sea, too much dependence on computer monitors, and not enough time on
ship operations simulators, assuming the navy uses them.

There may be too much dependence on technology but unless things have
really changed there was no shortage of drills and actual experience
on a ship. I doubt there are any simulators. There may be a shortage
of experienced sailors tho as turnover is a big problem in all of the
services.


Hmm. The U.S. maritime trades unions have big time ships operation
simulators for training. So do some European nations. Some years ago, I
got to "drive" (and crash) a tanker on one of the union simulators.

US maritime trade unions don't have ship simulators you lying sack of ****. and you never drove a tanker simulator at any union school.

The only "Union" simulator I"m aware of is in Piney Point MD, and thats a load/offload simulator. Made for dumbass lumpers ie Stevedores/Longshoreman.

US Maritime academys are not union organized you idiot.
What I learned and forgot, You'll never know.

Do you ever stop lying?


The stupidity with which you post here - consistently, I might add -
never ceases to amaze.

U.S. maritime trades unions *do* have large-scale ship simulators. The
Maritime Institute of Training and Technology has two large campuses,
one in Linthicum, Maryland, and the other on the west coast. Both are
facilities owned and operated by the International Organization of
Masters, Mates and Pilots (IOMM&P). It is an affiliate of the AFL-CIO
through the Longshoremen's Association. It is a labor union.

I've been to the Linthicum facility, called MITAGS, at least two dozen
times over the years. It is a college campus, with classrooms, dorms,
dining halls, and more. The union rents out its facilities to other
unions. It is next to BWI airport.

Here is a piece from its web site:

The International Organization of Masters, Mates & Pilots (MM&P) boasts
two state-of-the art training facilities, the Maritime Institute of
Technology & Graduate Studies (MITAGS) and the Pacific Maritime
Institute (PMI).

MITAGS is conveniently located on a scenic, 80-acre campus fewer
than five miles from Baltimore/Washington International (BWI) Airport,
Amtrak Rail and Interstate 95. The Pacific Maritime Institute (PMI), a
subsidiary of MITAGS, is located in Seattle, Wash.

MITAGS and PMI offer continuing education and customized curricula,
based on the use of the most advanced techniques and technology, for
professional mariners and other maritime industry employees. MITAGS is
known for its STN Atlas Full Mission Ship Simulator, which attracts
professional mariners from all over the world. Managers and instructors
at MITAGS and PMI assist companies, union members and other
organizations to address challenges in the areas of maritime training,
planning, education and safety.

The school has over 300,000 square feet of building space, with 100,000
square feet dedicated to maritime training activities. It is also home
to the International Longshoremen’s Association Crane Training Center.
This state-of-the-art crane simulator, one of six in the world, provides
realistic training for ship gantry, ship pedestal, dock gantry, twin
lift and mobile cranes.

In addition to its training activities, MITAGS also operates the
Conference Center at the Maritime Institute (CCMIT). With over 55
meeting areas, CCMIT is one of the largest training and conference
centers in the Baltimore/Washington area.

Did you notice the mention of the STN Atlas Full Mission Ship Simulator?

Do you even know what that is? That's the unit I got to fool around with
for about a half hour.

I've also been to the Seafarers facility at Piney Point. It also has
simulators.

When it comes to these facilities, MITAGS and Piney Point, you don't
know your ass from a hole in the ground. But that's like just about
everything else in your life, buddyboy.

You googled MMP, How cute.
You're still full of ****, and a liar to boot.