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On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:45:33 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:06:41 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:55:45 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Thats a dumb plan. Throwing away potentially good explosive
devices. The old stuff still can be dropped and cause blunt force
trauma even if the explosivefails. Waste not want
not.

I'm thinking his 'old stuff' was *accidentally* left to begin 'oozing'. The Army, at least the units
I was in, would use the older ammo for training as opposed to dumping it in the sea. I can't believe
the Coast Guard would purposely let ammo get so old it began 'oozing' unless someone f'ed up big
time.

At least you admit ammo has a shelf life.
I already said the 3 classes are ready service, training and trash.
We had limited ability to actually shoot live ammo and it was seldom
new when we got it anyway so disposal was pretty common.
You also pointed out why it was pretty much free to drop this bomb.
I doubt they "train" with an 18,000 bomb.

What was your typical cycle time on your large caliber rounds (105-155
etc)?
How long was it class 1, 2 and 3?


Looks like 20 years is the magic number. But, the rounds don't get trashed.

http://www.army-technology.com/featu...ition-4583575/


Thanks for finding that and reiterating the 20 year shelf life I
stated but it still said one particular obsolete shell was taken out
of service and rebuilt with a different payload for training.
At a certain point trashed vs taken apart and sold for the scrap price
of the metal is pretty much the same thing. The explosive is still
deactivated and destroyed. In the case of a bomb that is nothing but a
big metal tube stuffed with explosive, there is not a lot of recycling
going on.
There is a ton and a half of steel in that bomb (minus the guidance
pack) at $400 a ton, the scrap value is $600.
OK $16 million (or $171,000) in, $600 out, assuming there is no cost
involved in the recycling process (and we know that is not true).
It would be far cheaper to just throw them over the side in deep
water, hence what we did.