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Keyser Soze Keyser Soze is offline
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Default AFGE has their panties in a wad

On 3/18/17 10:41 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:20:34 -0400, Keyser Soze
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Unions exist to define rights and and to protect their members from
arbitrary and capricious actions of their employer and in some cases to
negotiate for wages, hours, working conditions, and benefits. As for
firing federal employees, it happens all the time, despite the claim of
your anecdotes.

I know you righties hate labor unions, because they interfere with
management's desire to marginalize workers.


So now you are calling the government an abusive employer that
employees need protection from? What planet do you live on?
The troubling part of government unions is they get to negotiate from
both sides of the table and they force unreasonable terms on the
taxpayers. You only need to look at the number of bankrupt cities to
see that.


I've worked with government employee unions that represent workers at
the federal, state, and local levels, and I've read through hundreds of
grievances filed, arbitration cases, and even lawsuits and, yes,
governments can be and are sometimes abusive employers. In that regard,
they are no different than many corporate employers. OF course, the
negotiations are never between equals, because the government entity can
refuse to negotiate in good faith and the employees have little
recourse, because they usually are forbidden by law from striking.

I was part of the postal labor negotiating team on the labor side for
two contracts, the largest labor contracts in the United States. We were
on one side of the table and postal management was on the other. That's
mostly true for all government employee negotiations. After the second
contract was settled, my principal and I were offered top labor
management jobs with the USPS, offers to switch sides, as it were. We
both turned down the offers twice during the Reagan Administrations.