On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:07:48 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 19:34:51 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:50:53 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:01:22 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 10:48:09 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 08:58:25 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

Yeah but...what happens when you take out Chicago, Flint, Detroit, Baltimore, and a few more of our
well-known kill zones, eh Krause?

It really is not that simple. Wyoming is 2.7, Montana is 3.5 and
Alaska is 8.0
Cabin fever could be a facto there tho and when you say something
about the blacks, they will answer "Yeah but we got indians".

It is notable that a state with some of the loosest gun laws in the
world, New Hampshire, has the lowest murder rate. 1.1
There is not a lot of "diversity" there tho.

Sure it's that simple. Take out the druggie murders in the big inner cities and the US rate would
drop substantially.

Just like Prohibition, a big chunk of the murder rate is driven by the
illegal drug trade (and alcohol is a drug). It really does not matter
if we are talking about an inner city drug gang selling coke and smack
or if it is a biker gang selling crank.

So we're back to the impact of Chicago, Flint, Detroit, etc, as I said earlier.

I will say it before Harry, there is also some violence around the
meth gangs in red states but nothing like the big city turf wars and
drive bys