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On 4/11/16 4:41 PM, Keine Keyserschei�e wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:44:06 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 4/11/16 2:10 PM, Keine Keyserschei?e wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:08:58 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:52:14 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 4/11/16 9:51 AM, Keine Keyserschei?e wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:53:01 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

...hate:

This morning, the Tennessee House passed HB 1840/SB1556 by a vote of 68
to 22. This unnecessary bill would allow licensed counselors in private
practice to use their own religious beliefs as an excuse for terminating
care or referring away clients because of moral objections to how the
client identifies.

...along with a lot more Keyserscheiße.

A private counselor should be able to treat or not treat whomever they wish.

Amen.
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Most professional level mental health counselors treat anyone they feel
competent to help. The Tennessee law was passed only to allow holier
than thou christians discriminate against gay.

The counselors I know, and I know quite a few socially, don't turn away
folks who have sexual identifies that veer from "the norm." Good
counselors are not judgmental. I suppose some of the "christian"
counselors in Tennessee are. They should find a different line of work,
perhaps as ministers.

Where I tend to agree with you is why they even need this law. Don't
private counselors already have the ability to pass on a patient they
do not think they can help?
If you start right out believing the person is an abomination, how
helpful would your advice be?

It is like the people bitching about a baker who won't make you a
cake. Would you really want food from someone who doesn't like you? I
bet it would not be their best effort. "oops, way too much salt" "oh
well".
The idea that they couldn't find a gay friendly florist was even more
ludicrous. It is hard to find a florist that doesn't have at least one
gay person working there.

Counselor: " My beliefs are 180 degrees out of kilter with yours. But, if you want to
keep coming here and talking for 50 minutes a week, I'll take the $300 to sit here.
Won't be able to give you much in the way of advice though."

I'd think that would solve the problem. The counselor is not turning anyone away,
just being up front.
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The problem is that you haven't a clue as to what a professional mental
health counselor does, or what the purpose of therapy is, or that
counselors typically are not judgmental. A professional counselor
typically does not turn down a person in need. The counselor's personal
beliefs are kept...personal.

Most counselors at the top of their profession who have been practicing
a long time have seen and heard every aspect of the human condition, and
I suspect a lot of what they've encountered would scare the crap out of you.

If you want judgmental therapy, go get christian counseling.
Whatever your problem, jesus will solve it.

One does not have to be a Christian or believe in Jesus to be anti-LBGTBZ. Hell, one
does not even have to be religious.

You haven't a clue as to what I do or don't know about mental health counselors. A
professional counselor may refer a person in need to one who is better able to assist
with the individual's problems.

The professional counselors must decide for themselves if their bias (and I'm not
saying it's bad to have a bias) will affect their ability to provide what the patient
needs.

Therefore, they should be able to treat or not treat whomever they wish.
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Uh-huh. Obviously, whoever you saw to help you overcome your prejudices
wasn't successful.