On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:53:14 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, November 23, 2015 at 5:17:06 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:18:01 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/23/2015 2:07 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/23/2015 1:33 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:26:04 -0500, wrote:

Another useless government boondoggle.

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Drones weighing as little as eight ounces will have to be registered
with the FAA if the agency accepts recommendations of a 26-member
panel struck last month to design a registration scheme. The panel,
which included representatives from Amazon, Google, drone
manufacturers and aviation groups, delivered their recommendations to
the FAA Administrator Michael Huerta on Saturday. Although Huerta
didn't release details of the suggestions, it's pretty hard to get 26
people to keep a secret so elements of the proposal started leaking
out late last week.

The panel wants registration to be free and to be painlessly
accomplished online. Rather than register individual aircraft, the
group wants operators themselves to be registered so that multiple
drones can be listed under their names. It will be up to the FAA to
determine the penalties that will apply to those who don't comply but
analysts worry that because the vast majority of hobby users are
unfamiliar with aviation regulations that compliance will be slow to
start. Aviation groups were adamant that the drones fit into the
existing system and that manned aviation not give up any airspace
access to accommodate them. Huerta has promised a quick turnaround on
the new rules because the FAA wants the rules in place before an
estimated 700,000 drones end up as presents over the coming holidays.


Can't fix stupid.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

especially in Washington.


Can't blame this on Washington or politicians.

"The panel, which included representatives from Amazon, Google, drone
manufacturers and aviation groups, delivered their recommendations to
the FAA Administrator Michael Huerta on Saturday."

The FAA desired recommendations to implement the registration process. They'd already
decided there *would* be a registration process.

That's what's stupid. A way to increase the size of government while accomplishing
nothing. Those who will follow the registration process are not the ones causing the
problem.

"The stated objective of the Task Force was to develop recommendations for the
creation of a registration process, which ultimately would contribute to an
enforceable rule imposed by the FAA. The FAA stated that the intent of establishing
this registration framework was to promote a culture of accountability while
achieving a maximum level of compliance."

More at:

http://www.faa.gov/uas/publications/....pdf?cid=TW373

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Ban idiots, not guns!

This will be nothing more than "feel good" legislation. You'll have to register your son's toy drone. What a joke.


No you missed it,
"Rather than register individual aircraft, the
group wants operators themselves to be registered so that multiple
drones can be listed under their names."

Your grammar school aged son needs to register. If he is registered
and then let's his buddy try it for a minute, the other kid better get
on the phone and get registered or he will go to the big house.

This makes it easy to be a Libertarian.
The government is out of control.


This is what FAA told the group:

"1. Develop and recommend minimum requirements for UAS that would need to be
registered.
- Factors to consider include, but are not limited to: technical capabilities and
operational capabilities such as size, weight, speed, payload, equipage, and other
factors such as age of operator.

2. Develop and recommend registration processes.
- Factors to consider include, but are not limited to: electronic means for
registration, data retention and storage, fee collection, and information required to
be submitted for registration.


3. Develop and recommend methods for proving registration and marking.
- Factors to consider include, but are not limited to: how certificates will be
issued and how a UAS will be able to be identified with the registered owner."

In other words, register the aircraft and a means to identify same with the
registered owner.

Just like guns.

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Ban idiots, not guns!