On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:29:10 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/18/15 11:18 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/18/2015 10:49 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
Man, France is kicking ass and taking names.
Media is reporting over 400 raids, over 70 arrests,
seizure of guns, ammo, even rocket launchers.

Russians aren't watching from the sidelines either.


French law USA lot looser than our law. Russia is a dictatorship. What
precisely should we be doing?



Your knee jerk prejudice is showing. I didn't say anything about
what the USA is or isn't doing.



Knee jerk? The French declare a state of emergency, which is proper, and
suspend civil liberties. That's factual.

Ray Kelly (NYPD) was on Charley Rose the other day talking about the
attacks and he says the biggest problem they have surveilling these
people is cracking into their communications. They are using encrypted
apps on their phones that we can't crack in anything like real time.
I do think they are trying to make Paris look more complicated than it
was. Coordinating several attacks is pretty easy with everyone
carrying a phone, even if they are not in direct contact with each
other. This was basically a "flash mob" with weapons.
This "security vs privacy" thing is not new. Over 20 years ago one of
my customers (Addison Fischer) testified in front of congress about
encryption. He told me the government wants business to have strong
encryption but the government wants the key.
That was essentially what Ray Kelly said he wants for all of the phone
apps.