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Default Captain of Ill-Fated El Faro Described as 'Experienced' and'Trusted' Mariner

On 10/10/2015 10:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:59:26 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

The fact still remains that the final decision was up to the captain
and the crew.
They had a simple bail out option of sailing west around the storm
but, as Wayne pointed out, they may have had a problem of when dockage
was going to be available in San Juan. Ships are not making any money
when they are sitting at anchor outside a port and I assume that loss
trickles down to the lowliest oiler in the engine room.
I am sure the decision to press on was made by the majority of the
crew

You're nuts.


Make a point or shut your pie hole

What part of that was wrong?


Jesus. I have to explain? The "crew" doesn't make
navigation decisions.
It's the Captain with blood on his dead hands.
The non-officers in the crew were members of the Seafarers
Union, and don't engage in ship navigation.
What's this trickle-down bull****? These guys are paid a
monthly salary. They don't have ****ing profit-sharing.



There were at least two other college degreed "officers" aboard as
members of the crew. Don't know if they are members of the Seafarer's
Union or not.

That said, in Maritime law and in seafaring tradition the ultimate
responsibility for the safety of the ship still resides with the
Captain. In fact the responsibility for *everything*
related to a ship's operations, including navigation, resides with the
Captain. There is no passing of the buck.

US Navy ships have officers who serve as the ship's navigator however
it's the Captain who loses his command if the ship runs aground, is
involved in a collision or is otherwise imperiled unnecessarily .