On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:57:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/10/2015 10:36 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 09:49:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/10/15 9:40 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:58:21 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:29:03 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 09:44:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I know what you're saying Greg. But my thought is that it's possible that it was bad enough but turned REALLY bad before they knew what was happening. Just my uneducated thought.

I suppose bravado goes a long way but I am not sure it would have me
steering into a storm when there was an easy way to avoid it.

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There's more information he

http://gcaptain.com/collision-course-with-a-hurricane-how-doomed-el-faro-met-its-end/#.VhgL0SssycM

This will be discussed by the professionals for a while. At this time
I don't think it's known exactly when they lost power. It may be
possible that they caught a really bad break by losing power before
they could reroute.

In addition to a possible desire to save fuel, there may have been
port considerations. Some harbors have limited dockage space and
tightly scheduled slip assignments. It could be very expensive if you
miss your slot and have to wait for a new one. Don't know if that's
an issue in San Juan or not.

Not to go all "Harry" on you but it is still just money.
How much did losing the ship cost:?

Did the company actually make more on the insurance than that old rust
bucket was worth?


Surely you are not alluding to a corporate climate in which saving lives
and not losing a ship are less important than an in$urance claim? Why,
that sort of thinking is *so* un'Merican.

The fact still remains that the final decision was up to the captain
and the crew.
They had a simple bail out option of sailing west around the storm
but, as Wayne pointed out, they may have had a problem of when dockage
was going to be available in San Juan. Ships are not making any money
when they are sitting at anchor outside a port and I assume that loss
trickles down to the lowliest oiler in the engine room.
I am sure the decision to press on was made by the majority of the
crew



The final decision (and it's outcome) is the responsibility of the
ship's captain under maritime law:

"The captain is ultimately responsible, under the law, for aspects of
operation such as the safe navigation of the ship, its cleanliness and
seaworthiness, safe handling of all cargo, management of all personnel,
inventory of ship's cash and stores,and maintaining the ship's
certificates and documentation."

One of the (presumed) lost is a local from Kingston, MA. He was a
marine engineer and graduated from Mass Maritime in 1996. He also
attended and graduated from the same high school as my older son who
knew him well.


Four people from the ship are local (Lee County Florida)