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			John Fereira  wrote in message   ... 
 "Michael Daly"  wrote in 
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  The Explorer is everything _except_ a fast kayak.  One of the best all- 
  round kayaks out there.  Check out the Boreal Designs Ellemere as well 
  if you like the Explorer. 
 
 I've heard many compare the Ellsemere to the Caribou too.  It has an 
 aggressively molded seat so if it fits the shape of your butt it's going to 
 be real comfortable. 
I found a dealer in Plymouth, MA who has Ellsemere and Surge Marine. 
His demo spot is on a large inland lake. Patriots's Day in MA there 
were up to 40 mi/hr gusts and strong chop on the lake.  I asked the 
dealer which boat was more stable and when he replied Surge decided to 
demo it even though I had come down for the Ellesmere. The dock and 
lake were roiling and I had not a little fear in my heart when I 
pulled away. The Surge knifed through the chop nicely and didn't seem 
to mind the wind. I wasn't brave enough to try edging under the 
conditions and after less than 15  backed it into the dock and was 
happy to be off the water. While I announced to my host that I didn't 
think I was up for any more demoing today he suggested I at least sit 
in the Ellesmere. That was enough for me, unless I was interested in 
strong prostate stimulation along with my paddling, I did not like 
that seat with the raised prostate bumb in the middle. What were those 
Quebec folks thinking? Speaking of seats, the next day I spent an hour 
in a WS Tempest 170 pro. More tractable conditions up to 20 Mi /hr 
gusts and some current on the Charles river. I found the seat and 
outfitting to be most impressive and comfortable. the boat however was 
more affected by wind than I would have liked and I found myself 
employing the skeg a lot going downwind and even needed it going 
upwind occassionally. Stability seemed excellent . Well I won't buy a 
boat just because I like the seat, but I won't buy a boat either which 
has a seat I hate.  I'm thinking now that maybe I'd be better off 
spending all this time demoing other boats on paddling my own boat and 
trying to improve my skills. After all how can you appreciate what a 
performance boat has to offer if you're not willing to push it. thanks 
to all who have responded. I value your opinions.----Cheers Gene 
  So where I sit now it's either the Caribou S, a smaller 
  Gulfstream if that exists 
  
  Slipstream - but that may be tippy for someone your size.  There's also 
  an Andromeda, but I found that to be a dreadful kayak. 
 
 At a symposium last year a few people were talking about the Andromeda and 
 someone said that even Current Designs admits the Andromeda was a mistake. 
  
  Try the Skerray - I find it roughly similar to a Gulfstream based on a 
  short paddle.  John F. will no doubt be able to point out the differences 
  much better than I.  However, I think the Skerray is worth checking out 
  if you like the Gulfstream. 
 
 Doh!  Why didn't I think of the Skerray?  Perhaps because mine has a Ocean 
 cockpit that I knew he wouldn't like.  The Skerray likely would be a good 
 one to try.  It's got real nice initial stability, is very responsive but a 
 bit faster than a Romany or Avocet.  I've had mine for 6 years or so and 
 have since built two higher performance boats.  Every once in awhile I think 
 about selling the Skerray but then I get in an paddle it and get reminded 
 how much fun that boat is to paddle. 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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