On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:42:43 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:35:18 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 13:29:06 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 05:17:31 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 02:28:16 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 16:56:09 -0400, John H.
wrote:

CBS has pretty much made the traditional bricklayer obsolete. You can
do "Berlin wall" quality block work if you are insulating and dry
walling the inside and putting 1/2" of stucco on the outside.
All you see is the drywall and stucco finish. That is usually textured
to hide even more defects.
Strength is not much of an issue when you are doweling at least 16% of
the cells and the top 16" is solid concrete with four #5s in it.

Explain the 'Berlin Wall' analogy, please. I spent some time with a three pound
hammer and chisel trying to get some chunks from the wall right before it came all
the way down. That was one tough son of a bitch!
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The Berlin wall was tough, but it was not pretty work. Block work
under stucco does not have to be pretty.

We must be talking different parts. In Berlin, close to 'Checkpoint Charlie', the
wall was slabs of concrete, not blocks.

I am just talking about the pictures we saw in the 60s when it was
being built (that still show up in clips when they have TV shows about
it). They showed guys just slapping block down as fast as they could,
with mortar going everywhere and that became a metaphor in the mason
community for sloppy work..

Oliver Stone was still using them in his "History of the US, Ollie
style" mini series.

Some was blocks and some was slabs.

Some of the clips I was talking about are here, in the first minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwOfphFsUwM


This one, at the 18 second mark, shows, I believe, the slabs used in Berlin.

http://www.euronews.com/nocomment/20...-wall-in-1961/

I used to have a bag full of the chunks I got from the wall. Gave them all away with
a 'certificate' of authenticity. I expect they're all trashed by now.

Seventh Corps headquarters, after the wall was taken down, got one of the slabs,
complete with all the graffiti, which the mounted by the gate going into Kelly
Barracks.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.