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Alex[_4_]

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/23/2015 8:35 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/23/15 8:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:57:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Adding "more slots" requires spending millions more on facilities,
training trainers, paying trainers, and much more. It takes three to
five years to properly train in the classroom and on the job a
qualified
journeyman or woman. You apparently think the training is done
via some
sort of rump group on the job site before work begins each morning.
Well, maybe that works for stick builders in your part of
Florida, eh?

Slow learners, huh?

No just that throttling I was talking about.

A lot of guys will just go get a "helper" job for a contractor and be
ready to sit for the journeyman exam in a year or two if they are
willing to do some book work at night.

We had a little study group on the old Prodigy BBs and several of us
got our inspector certifications for free. Fortunately one of the guys
was Joe Tedesco, a road warrior for IAEI and he pitched us his whole
road show, along with practice questions and assignments. All of us
smoked the IAEI tests and I also knocked out the ICBO and SBCCI
(residential, commercial and plan review)
I was standing in the parking lot in 45 minutes on the 3 hour
residential SBCCI test (100 questions) but it was the 3d time I had
taken that same basic test in less than a year. ;-)

Other guys got their contractors licenses or became inspectors, two
did both.

Old Joe was a "Bastin" guy from up in your neck of the woods.

None of that has anything to do with being able to weld the piping
for a
pharma manufacturing facility, as just one example.

Bull****. Our local community college has a welding technology program.
Come off of a 2 year program, certified welder. My brother could weld
already when he went in the SeaBees. They sent him to a 3 week
school at I
think Lincoln Welders factory. Came out Nuclear certified. Was one
of the
Welders that built the reactor in the Antarctic back in the 60's.
Was just
up on Vancouver Island. They have trades courses in high school. They
build what are called small houses. 800-1200 ft. Sq. the houses are
sold
at the end of the year. Are able to be moved. Pass code. Bring back
trades in middle and high school. For the 80% who should not or do not
want college.

Sometimes Harry seems to forget (or ignore) the fact that the vast
majority of tradespeople including certified welders, licensed
electricians, carpenters and plumbers are *not* union or union trained.

My son-in-law is a licensed electrician who started his own business.
He's currently attending night school (again) to get his master
electrician certification and license. The biggest advantage the
master license offers is the number of people he can hire to work for
his business.

He can currently have a limited number of people working for him
(forget how many). I asked him recently how he gets extra help when
he's busy and needs it. There are many other licensed electricians that
he has met over the time he has had the business and most often one or
more of them are available to help. I asked him if he ever hires union
electricians from an pool of available people. He has, but doesn't
like to unless he can't find anyone else. I asked "Why?"

He said that the union guys don't like to do a wide range of work and
complain if they have to do something that they normally don't do.

My son-in-law is a straight shooter. He doesn't make **** up.

You got crickets from that post. When he lost, or can't debate, he
runs for the hills.