On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:14:56 AM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:12:30 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:15:47 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/21/15 8:45 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote:


Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks
will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do
something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid
will fail ... at least without significant democratic support.
That is still a possibility tho.

What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support?

I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in
the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume
all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the
virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar
democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections



Those UAW jobs didn't go "south" because of immigrants, they went south
to Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas because the jobless peopole
down there were hungry for any sort of decent work, and didn't care
whether the corporations would exploit them, and pay them far less in
salary and benefits.

You make a lot of assumptions about "folks" you don't really know.

I know a bunch of UAW people. My wife's family and most of their
friends worked for Chrysler or Delco.
Before Tennessee, the jobs were going to Mexico and a lot of the
manufacturing is still there. That is where the Delco Radio operation
went when my mother in law, 2 sisters in law and several of their
friends lost their jobs. The last time I was in Kokomo, that was a big
empty building.
Ask those people what they think of Mexicans.

Mexicans doing labor in the US or Mexicans doing skilled assembly jobs
in Mexico?

My ex-wife worked at the Lordstown, OH GM plant straight out of high school back in the late 70's. Skilled assembly job? What a laugh. Barely trained monkey work is more like it. And the pay was damn good, and the union protected your job no matter how badly you screwed up. She used to boast about the time she purposely caused the assembly line to shut down. Got called in to be fired, but the union rep saved her.

That kind of union crap is what ultimately moved those jobs down south and to Mexico. The union had a big hand in the loss of middle class manufacturing in America.