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On 7/5/2015 12:26 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 20:39:51 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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It's not an issue of a character flaw or moral issue.
It's a matter of correcting the need of a "feel good",
an "escape" or realistically addressing other influencing factors.


I guess you don't have a lot of experience with addicts. It is far
more with them than needing a "feel good ... escape".

After a while, they don't actually feel good or escape. That is why
the dosage keeps going up and they try stronger or just different
drugs.

You can't just tell them to cut it out, the most effective cures tend
to just replace one "drug" with another one ... even if it is just
"faith". (the opiate of the masses according to our progressives).




Greg, unfortunately I *do* have considerable experience dealing with
both drug addicts and alcoholics ... likely more than you realize. I
have spent hours and hours having private and personal conversations
with people I have become involved with in trying to help. I've driven
them to meetings and have attended several myself to learn more about
the problems and pressures they have. I've financed private rehab for
two people and discussed the programs at length with the staff at the
treatment facilities. For a long time I bought into the "disease" stuff
as a cause of their addictions but when those affected talk honestly it
becomes very apparent that the root cause is sociological.

The people pushing the "disease" theory are the treatment centers and
psychiatrists. In some ways it is beneficial because it diminishes the
stigma associated with substance abuse causing those affected to be more
open in seeking help. But the addicts aren't claiming to have a disease.

There is certainly a physical addiction that develops that must be
overcome. If you want to call that a disease, ok. But it's not
the cause. Talk to them. You will find that the root of the problem
is due to social pressures or environmental issues.