Neal, if you want to pull my chain (pardon the expression) you MUST read for
not only content, context and tone, but for specifics, particularly when you
use them in support of an argument. :{))
That said, I'm sorry we didn't get together - there was no southing (as
you'd see if you read the beginning) in our dash to the exit...
"Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 May 2015 15:44:16 -0600, slide
wrote:
On 5/7/2015 12:31 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
I never felt ok about doing this given the bird s**t I had to rinse off
of the decks and the often serious diseases carried in that stuff. I
kept a tarp to deploy in cases of rain instead of bare decks. Even so I
did the Clorox trick as well.
We are blessed/cursed (some of them are very nice to be around) with a
general lack of birds in the area where we currently find ourselves.
In any event, a scrub in the start of a squall, and a good rinse time,
quickly renders our surface drinkable.
As to how much water it takes for us to be comfortable that way, it has to
be sluicing hard enough to hit the back side of the scupper just downstream
from our fills.
A clean tarp is a much better idea. I would hesitate to drink water
gathered off the decks even when Cloroxed but it sure could be used
safely for bathing, laundry, etc. I suspect most of the water Skippy
collects is used for bathing, cleaning and laundry. I have found that
one conceited woman with long hair can use 25-50 gallons of water a
day.
If you read Skip's recent narrative in whole, you'd see he's rather
penurious with his fresh water. He bathes in salt, for example, most of
the time.
Did I misread or did he not say his *forward* water
tank holds 125 gallons. Why, that's totally absurd.
If he has an aft water tank of similar size that
would mean 250 gallons of water. OMG! Can you say
gluttonous waste?
Yes, you misread. Forward tank is nominally (based on dimension; reality
makes it a bit less) 195G, aft 120 (ditto)G, and the supplemental tank in
the settee 50G. Nominally, as much as 365 gallons of water. However,
there's only 80G of diesel; we're a sailboat, after all.
It rained hard enough yesterday that we again not only filled our tanks to
overflowing, we also filled the supplemental tank by merely the standing
water in the fill tube's force, coming up from the forward tank through its
3/8" tube - 50 gallons in, again, mere minutes.
Under those circumstances (and, of course, the weather pattern could
change), the summertime pattern of occasional squalls out of nowhere (this
one was 37 knots in a gust, 30 sustained) allowing, we're being a bit more
casual about our water.
However, passages such as our Fernandina to Portland always find us with
ample water left. If we're not being VERY conservative, we typically will
get as much as two months out of a complete fill.
I'd like to see you do that in your world cruiser; stepping out for a jug of
water's a bit challenging hundreds of miles offshore :{)) Or, if you
arrived in two months with water to spare, likely I'd want to stay upwind!
clip
All chain rode is unnecessary, destructive of the environment,
prohibitively expensive and it causes undue stress on the deck
hardware, deck and boat in general. It is also too heavy and
doesn't take long to rust. Responsible and wise sailors use a
combination of chain and nylon rode.
We have both aboard; our secondary is 150' chain and 150' MegaBraid bent on.
Both chains will rust at about the same rate if they're in the water at the
same time; ergo, you should have only rope rode, as you're either pregnant
or you're not, so to speak.
As to the weight, it helps offset all that windage and junk we have hanging
off our stern :{))
And, by the way, as that increases mass at the end of a pendulum, it swings
more slowly. Ergo, this 2-3' chop we have is mere wiggles. What would your
yacht look like anchored here, in 9' of water? With all the weight
concentrated in the center, I'd imagine it would be VERY responsive to every
wave :{)) (which is about a 2 second interval, FWIW)
I note that you have some interesting stuff hanging off the back of your
boat, too, but the scale to accommodate the dinghy is striking on Cut The
Mustard compared to what is astern aboard Flying Pig.
I had that on my previous boat finding no issue with nylon bent to chain
but this boat came with all chain. I saw no reason to not deploy it. I'm
skeptical that it is more damaging to the sea bottom than rope / chain
rode. Only a short length is on the bottom and that is the same whether
the rode is partly rope or not.
Depends upon the strength of wind and current. In many cases if
you have out 100 feet of chain, 80 or so feet can be scraping
back and forth along the bottom, wreaking unnecessary havoc
on the ecosystem there.
It sounds as though you advocate moorings only. I =have= known folks to
carry three danforths which they strung together to make a mooring, so,
perhaps you could do it. But then, there would be all that extra weight.
(You WERE going to use chain on those to make the mooring right? Oh. It
won't move around at all, leaving that ecosystem pristinely as it was when
you arrived.)
clip
Yup, let the pretenders like Skippy have the big,
cluttered, system-laden, wallowing well below the
load waterline, garbage scows on which they spend
90% of the time they could be cruising working on
them instead. Examine his diary entries. Perhaps
5% is about sailing while the other 95% is all
about problems he has with one unnecessary system
after another.
So myopic yet so typical, these days where trying
to impress takes precedence over ease of sailing.
--
Sir Gregory
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Ah, the nobility has spoken.
We're sitting in the middle of the Bahamas at anchor, communicating over
WiFi to a point a dozen miles away (which, by the way, if your memory is
long enough, you may recall my posting under way south of Staniel, using the
Sampson Cay Marina hotspot, is our usual). Lydia's using her cellphone
over our network (most smartphones can connect to the internet and avoid
minutes/data charges) to face-time her kids, and her computer to send
pictures she took on her 'real' camera to her family.
I check in to the MMSN (maritime mobile service net) occasionally; yesterday
the anchor playfully yelled that his ears hurt, as I'd nearly blasted the
roof off that Dallas-based ham shack. That, by the way, was one of those
unnecessary system problems we had and conquered.
So much for systems. Can you do that aboard your fine yacht?
By the way, congratulations on solving that OpenCPN challenge and continuing
to manufacture 134a; you perhaps could earn a bit on the side providing
those whose systems only USE it.
Oh.
Systems.
Never mind.
We sailed up from Marsh Harbour yesterday, and after anchoring on our
all-chain-and-Rocna, we had a 37knot squall during which we moved not an
inch; our catenary took all the major stuff, and our snubber did the stretch
and respond routine. FWIW, it's NO difficulty to attach our snubber; I clip
the receiver over the link right at the windlass and let it down.
Today we'll scrub the dinghy, and swim off the beach here at the national
park, as it's a bit too rough for snorkeling/free diving; I get a break from
being the Cruisers' Net anchor on my birthday tomorrow, but we did just fine
broadcasting from here today, as we have in the past. The radio I used was
replaced during one of those unnecessary problem solving situations.
Of course, I just reached under the bed (OOPS! Berth!) and pulled out the
identical radio, which went right into the same hole and used the same,
already installed plugs. OUR boat has plenty of room for spares - so, we
carry them :{))
What? You don't? Don't go all Robert Redford on me now, and be unprepared!
L8R, y'all
Skip, starkers because nobody without binocs could see us, and if the binox
folks want to see me au naturel, they are welcome to it :{))
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