On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:21:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 8:59 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 08:42:12 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 06:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/19/15 6:44 AM, Stick Left-Steer Left wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 06:37:11 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/19/15 1:56 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:30:42 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/18/15 5:52 PM, wrote:

How many people are killed by those guns sitting around doing nothing?

What I said only refers to the fact that most people killed in both
cases involve someone not following basic safety rules.

For the purposes of these discussions you really have to take suicide
out of the mix anyway. (more than half of firearm deaths) That is an
intentional act and people will find a way to do it. The Japanese
manage to have much higher rates and virtually none of them involve
firearms.


Murder with a firearm is not an intentional act?

Yup about 11,000 a year.
There are plenty of judges who will tell you that EVERY accident
involves someone breaking a traffic law and that is an intentional act
too. 43,000 times a year.

I suppose you could toss out the fraction of a percent that are bona
fide equipment failures but there are plenty of lawyers saying that
was an intentional act too.
How much is GM paying for the ignition switches?


The comparisons with car deaths is an absurdity anyone who has taken
college level stats and logic courses will see.

Only if you started with something else as your conclusion and tuned
your stats to prove it.


It's the premise that is absurd...and so anything built upon that
premise is also absurd.

yawn...


You lost again, Krause.


This is rec.boats...rationality among the righties here in firearms
does not exist. Go play with your toy airplanes.

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Funny stuff, Harry the self proclaimed gun nut arguing against gun
ownership. If he were really into statistics he'd analyze the
demographics of where these gun murders were occurring, and how many
of them were drug gang related.

He can't do that. It would be bordering on racism.


My comment was on the absurdity and inanity of trying to make some sort
of meaningful comparison between the number of car deaths and gun deaths.

Your comment was absurd.

Here - do it:

"If he were really into statistics he'd analyze the
demographics of where these gun murders were occurring, and how many
of them were drug gang related."

Show us how friggin' smart you really are.
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Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.