On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:22:02 -0500, KC wrote:

If you want I will say something about countersteering and you both can
come after me.... but the two of you need to knock it off.

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Funny you should mention countersteering. One of my new boat toys
over the past year is an electric bicycle. Remembering the spirited
(and sometimes contentious) discussions about countersteering, I did a
few experiments on the bike. Nudging the handle bars a tad to the
left did induce a lean to the left which of course is essential for a
left turn. Vice versa of course nudging to the right. I think this
is something that we normally do without really thinking about it,
sort of the same way that we don't usually think about balancing.