On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:19:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

“With all due deference for the dream chemists, armchair farmers and
platform orators who have touted alcohol-gasoline as the greatest of
all fuels, oil industry technologists know and automotive engineers
know that it is not as satisfactory a fuel as straight gasoline of
normal quality.”

Conger Reynolds (1939)

Obviously, this is not a new issue. gasohol sucks as fuel for 2-cycle
engines and any of the other millions of engines out there not
specifically made to burn E15 or greater. It is hard to brag about any
fuel that immediately voids the manufacturer's warranty.

If you look at the history of gasoline, alcohol was abandoned in favor
of tetraethyl lead, then abandoned in favor of MTBE..... and finally
forced on the American engine owner by Federal Mandate (to appease the
American corn farmer). Alcohol sucked at the turn of the century and
it still does.

Not related to this discussion, but additionally, it should be noted
that alcohol is, from an environmental standpoint, a nightmare.

On 1/27/2015 7:52 AM, Gene Kearns wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:19:02 -0500, wrote:

I would agree (aside from corn farmers) there is nothing good about
ethanol. One of my biggest concerns is labeling.

In NC, the General Assembly, unable to ban labeling, defunded
enforcement. So, I wonder if consumers will actually know what they
are pouring into their tank.... unless the Feds are doing the
enforcement.



On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:51:17 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:


And it is a Federal Requirement to placard the dispensing pump. It is
illegal to burn E15 in boats!

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml



Ethanol is the biggest scam since the chlorophyll craze in the 50s.
The corn farmers want corn in everything and they figured out how to
get it in your car.

A real ecologist would point out it is worse than gasoline on several
counts, not to mention the depletion of the Ogalalla aquifer.
When that water is gone, we will forget there was ever an oil
"crisis".



Twenty years from now you will be more disppointed
by the things that you didn't do than by the ones
you did do.

So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
- Mark Twain


1987 23' Grady-White Gulfstream
2005 20' Angler CC
2004 17' G3 CC 1756

Out of Shallotte, NC



Gene, what would replace the oxygenator in gasoline? That was the
original purpose of ethanol ... as a replacement for MBTE which was
banned.

Maybe you are of the school that engines today do not need an
oxygenator in gasoline?





Twenty years from now you will be more disppointed
by the things that you didn't do than by the ones
you did do.

So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
- Mark Twain


1987 23' Grady-White Gulfstream
2005 20' Angler CC
2004 17' G3 CC 1756

Out of Shallotte, NC