On 1/4/15 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts,
I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats?
Just curious...
Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a
direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK
to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there.
Specious.
Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not
established as a Christian nation.
I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs
dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera.
"One nation under God"
But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would
not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be
no religious expression.
The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers,
the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge"
during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure.
Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction?
Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect
example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently.
It does not say one nation under Jesus. One national under Allahu Akbar
neither. What ever God floats your boat. Including the Prince of Atheism.
Is inclusive of all deities.
Not relevant or accurate. Those who pushed for the inclusion of the
phrase were christians.
Fortunately a growing number of public schools have recognized the
religious *******ization of "the pledge" and have dropped it from
morning student activities. Religious expressionism has no place in the
public schools.