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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/25/2014 6:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
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On 11/25/2014 12:11 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:24:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

If you were a criminal would you rather rob a bank with a gun registered
to you or with one that is completely untraceable?

I doubt it really makes any difference unless you drop the gun.
Maybe you need a better example.

If you want to talk about most gun deaths, (suicide and acquaintance
murder) who owns the gun is not really significant at all. These are
not "who done it" crimes.

True but guns are readily and easily obtainable to
virtually anyone that wants one and for any reason.
Why not make them less easily obtainable unless you
have a demonstrated lack of criminal background?

Background checks and gun registration won't cure
all gun violence. Never said they would. They may
help contribute to less gun violence someday however
without taking away anybody's right to own firearms.

The only answer is to make owning a gun an "arduous" process.
And stiff penalties for illegal gun possession.
Those who want them can still get them, but there will be a lot less
guns floating around. Yeah, floating around. Virtually every gun used
in crime started its life with a "legal owner," a Joe Putz or Greg
Fretwell, or Harry Krause.
Even suicides would decrease because that's usually an impulse move.
The only thing stopping it is the gun nuts. They'll lose in the end.
I won't deeply care unless somebody I care about gets shot.
Hasn't happened yet. But I don't have trouble voting for anybody
who want guns severely restricted.
I'll still be able to get one if I want to. Of course I'm sane.

Your sanity is your opinion. It won't fly in the opinion of many here
because your ideas "infringe" on their rights.

What the hell. Maybe Holder and company will supply arms to those who
should not have them. Or there will be importers selling unregistered
weapons of all capabilities. Sort of like drugs. They are illegal, been a
war on drugs for years, and there is plenty available. Price has not kept
up with inflation according to studies, which means via supply and demand
there is more being imported than is required. Look at Mexico. Guns are
heavily controlled. And look at the amount of East Block fully automatic
weapons they are using. Fast and furious and the U.S. Supplying weapons is
a drop in the armory. Maybe a high quality handgun for a leader, but most
are probably AK variants. We have not sold that many full auto weapons to
the public ever.