On 11/25/2014 9:24 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/25/2014 9:01 AM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 12:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/25/2014 12:03 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:15:19 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/24/2014 10:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:02:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 11/24/2014 8:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 19:25:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

All I am advocating is background checks for all types of
purchases or
transfers (FFL and private) and a record of who currently owns
the gun.

Eventually it will happen. Just a matter of time.

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What do you propose doing with existing firearms?



I'd go with grandfathered from registration until sold or
transferred.

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That might be a half reasonable approach, and avoids creating a
lot of
felons, but it leads to all kinds of sticky issues with proving that
a gun is legally grandfathered.


Just establish a date. Any sale or transfer after that date requires
registration.


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I'm thinking more in terms of what happens if a person is accused of
having an unregistered gun. How do you prove that it was
grandfathered?


I guess if what I proposed ever became law you could take a picture of
your gun on a newspaper that shows the date. Good question though.

Not to keep bringing Massachusetts up but that situation exists already
up here in terms of types of guns owned. It's the ban/pre-ban thing.

If you purchased or acquired a gun prior to 1998 that is now banned it
is grandfathered and you can legally own it. You can also legally sell
or transfer it as long as it was always in Massachusetts since new. That
part doesn't make any sense to me, but that's how they wrote the law.

I think the state reporting of private sales and transfers also started
in 1998, so if you purchased it before then in a private sale there's no
record of it.

I wonder what regulating the law abiding owners of guns has to do with
lessening the criminal use of guns?


If you were a criminal would you rather rob a bank with a gun registered
to you or with one that is completely untraceable?


There's a third option, and a fourth option.