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Default Thank you, Richard!!!

On Sat, 15 Nov 2014 02:03:59 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 21:05:15 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2014 8:52 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 12:36:18 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/14/14 12:19 PM,
wrote:

I am a (CCW) licensed owner so most of this does not apply to me
anyway but again, if these sellers are willing to break an existing
law, what would make them follow another law?


You don't seem able to comprehend the "gun show loophole." It's not just
a loophole for gunshows, either. When I sold my SIG to a Virginia buyer
in Virginia, I called the VSP to find out what I needed to do to make
the transaction kosher. "Individual to individual, we don't care" was
the response. I went through an FFL.

I am not sure who you talked to in the VSP but it is a violation of
that federal law I cited to sell a gun to a person from another state
and it is illegal to buy one from another state without at least one
FFL involved in each state.. That has been true since 1968.



Right. The problem is that with no requirements for background checks
or transaction reporting of private sales, who's gonna catch 'em?
Money is exchanged, gun is transferred with no records kept.


Who would catch them if there was another law?
The wording of the federal law is sufficient to prosecute both the
buyers and sellers in that CNN piece and also prosecute the guys who
took them across state lines. It is just not anything the BATF is
willing to pursue.
That is not really an investigatory agency. Most of their time is
spent simply trying to audit the transactions that are required to be
recorded now. They barely get to each dealer once a year, if that and
it is a cursory inspection of records at best.

Occasionally they will identify a suspected "bad dealer:" and tear his
records apart, warranted or not but most of the time it is like the
DMV. They just plod along.
The abuses of the BATF Swat teams seems to be largely in the past but
they still happen.
A dummy hand grenade seems to be the biggest offense these days.
Nobody seems capable of looking at the bottom and figuring out it is
hollow inside,.The blue spoon is lost on them too,


Amen.