Thread: 2A and Guns
View Single Post
  #9   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
John H.[_5_] John H.[_5_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,663
Default 2A and Guns

On Thursday, November 6, 2014 1:03:27 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:30:21 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I've shot (pun intended) my mouth off regarding my views on the need
for reasonable gun control laws, basically supporting universal
background checks, gun registration, a chain of custody record of
ownership and standardization of the myriad state laws. I believe they
should apply to both FFL dealer purchases and subsequent private sales.

Many have expressed their disagreement. That's fine. Concerns about
creating a bureaucratic monstrosity are valid but in this day and age
of computers, data base capacities and virtually instant communications,
it doesn't seem unreasonable or unobtainable to me.

To those who recite 2A infringement issues and argue "slippery slope"
concerns I remain unconvinced for the following reasons:

Federal laws have been on the books (basically since 1934), the intent
of which is to restrict certain types of firearms from being generally
available to the public. The restrictions may be in the form of
taxation to get around the authority of Congress but the result is still
restrictions. Common sense laws exist that prohibit or restrict
military type firearms and weapons as well.

A Federal law requiring that dealers be licensed exists as does the
requirement for a background check and registration for guns purchased
from a dealer. In addition, individual states have their own laws.
Some are much more restrictive than others.

So, for those arguing the 2nd Amendment and their rights to bear arms
not to be "infringed upon", I'd suggest they already are. They are
infringed upon at varying degrees, depending on what state you live in.

Absolutely correct.


If those reasons are as valid as some claim, why isn't there an uproar
about eliminating *all* restrictions, background checks and registrations?

Because gun owners have 'compromised' repeatedly with the gun control
advocates. Much of the compromise was to quell the whining of the
'masses' and other liberals. The continued push for more stringent gun
controls simply shows the neverending push to ban guns completely.

My argument is to establish reasonable laws that really don't "infringe"
on anyone's rights anymore than they already are and to make those laws
uniform throughout the country.


Fine, let's adopt Virginia's laws throughout the country.

Note that my response contained no ridicule, name-calling, etc. If you
want to join up with Krause and ridicule those who don't agree with
you, you'll hear no more from me. Don't let my lack of words indicate
agreement with your position.


I guess that answers that!