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Mr. Luddite

On 11/1/2014 12:13 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:54:49 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/1/2014 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 06:38:07 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/1/2014 1:18 AM, wrote:

Felons are unlikely to sign any kind of transfer form, that is the
express train to the slammer, so I am not sure that is even relevant.

Greg, you are therefore making the case *for* gun registration and the
tracking of sales/transfers.

Only if you believe the only people who sell guns would be willing to
make the buyer fill out the form.
BAO contended a while ago that most of the crime guns were stolen. It
is clear that they would never go through legal channels again. They
still move around.
If you are just talking about nuts and people shooting the ones they
love, registration and background checks mean nothing.
Until they snap, they will be fine upstanding citizens who would pass
any background check and after they go on their shooting spree, there
is no problem figuring out who did it or what gun they used.

Not to keep kicking a dead horse but the first part of your comment is
exactly what gun registration is intended for.

I sold a handgun up here in a private sale. When I bought the gun it
was registered with the state identifying me as the owner.

When I sold it, it was up to me to visually confirm that the buyer held
a current and valid MA gun license and it was up to him to confirm I was
the lawful owner. I checked his license, he checked mine, along with
the dealer provided documentation of when I bought the gun.

I then completed a form on-line that included my info and license
number, his info and license number, the gun model and serial number.

Once submitted, the gun was no longer registered to me. It is now
registered to him as the owner as of the date of transfer.

No FFL or fees required.

You are both law-abiding citizens. Good. Now, when that gun is made
illegal by the state, the state will know from whom the can expect the
gun to be turned in. Or from whom they need to collect the
gun...paying a 'fair' amount for it, of course.

You each had to have licenses, and one of you had to have a computer.
Your laws are preventing poor folks who can't even afford a voter ID
from buying a gun.

Shame on MA.

Pre-ban guns are not confiscated and you can still own them, buy them or
sell them as long as they made before 1998 and have always been owned by
someone living within the state.

Banned guns made after 1998 cannot be legally purchased or acquired by
any means.