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Mr. Luddite

On 10/30/2014 6:57 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:33:26 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/30/2014 6:19 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:48:03 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/30/2014 4:30 PM, wrote:

So what? Registration is like car registration, simply another tax and
does not really prevent them from being stolen or misused by their
owner.
The cops are not even using the tools they have now to trace crime
guns. It took about 24 hours to trace Lee Harvey Oswalds rifle back to
the place he bought it and he used a fake ID. That was before GCA86
and all of the registering that came with that law (like the 4473
form).
They can trace guns if it is important to them. It just does not seem
to be that important. I would ask, how many stolen guns are recovered
and returned to the owner? Virtually none. Does that mean none of them
were ever recovered from a criminal? Doubtful.

They already have a federal background check.
"Universal" is just a liberal talking point. There is no way to
enforce much of anything in private sales, particularly when it is a
criminal doing the buying.
We have to ask ourselves, how many of the crimes would have been
prevented by any of these feel good laws? 1% ? 2%?
It certainly was not any of the high profile shootings we always hear
about..

Any gun I buy in MA is registered with the state. I don't pay anything
for it, it's not a tax. It's simply the process of buying a firearm.
The type of firearm, model and serial number is tied to your name,
address and license number. If you sell or transfer the firearm another
form is submitted identifying the new owner and gun license number. The
state maintains a paper trail of legal ownership.

It doesn't "infringe" on anyone's rights and it pacifies the anti-gun crowd.

... and how many crimes do you figure that has prevented?
You are also paying for all of that bureaucracy, whether it shows up
as a line item on your bill or not. It is like the ammo logs we had
for a while. They generated millions of pages of documentation costing
perhaps $50 million dollars and after a decade, even the police
agreed, nobody ever used a single one of those logs to solve a crime.

Of course, there are the hard core gun nuts who jump to the claim that
registration automatically means confiscation someday. I don't think we
will ever see that happen.

I don't "think" I can trust the people who are in the government "not"
to do anything.
Who would have thought that they would make you take off your clothes
and submit to a body search,, just to get on an airplane.
40 years ago I doubt anyone would have believed that people could be
required to submit bodily fluids for a drug test, without a warrant.
Who would believe the cops can stop you for weaving (or some other
profile stop), "notice" you have "too much" money in your wallet and
just take it?
No I do not trust them.
.

Despite the growth of government Americans enjoy far more "rights"
overall today than they did 40, 50 or 100 years ago.

Really? There've been some rules, regulations, and laws rescinded in
the past 40, 50, or 100 years. There are 'fewer' of them?

Maybe you could provide some examples of those 'rights' that have been
granted.

Just to put you in the frame of thought:

Women can vote.
Civil Rights Act - technically Afro-Americans could vote in 1869 but
found it difficult to do so until the 1960's.
Gay Marriage Rights.

more if I took the time to research, but you can do that.