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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 14:23:11 -0500, Califbill
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Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
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Particularly when you understand the whole conversation was simply a
diversion from my question about how ISIS had anything to do with
George Bush.

I guess the invasion of Iraq didn't upset the Arab/Muslim apple cart.
But you can lay all the ills of the Israel/Arab problems at the feet of
Roosevelt/Trumsn 70 year ago.
Okay.


They were also the basis for Viet Nam. Truman should not have let France
have back indochina. And DeGaul told Ike to stay out after Dien Bien Phu.
Ike did not listen.


Ike and JFK both believed this should be a covert operation in
Vietnam. It is far easier to extricate yourself from a war you are not
even admitting you are having. It was Johnson who lied to congress and
the American public (in the Gulf of Tonkin incident) to make it a
full commitment of troops. I never thought much of JFK but I do think
he was smart enough not to make it an all out war.
Even then, JFK did expand from Ike's 900 men to over 16,000 by 1963.
Five years later LBJ had over a half million there.


I think LBJ and Lady Bird looked at a very prosperous war. At least to
them and their people.