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On 10/8/14 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:17:37 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 10:44 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 08:42:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 11:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 22:12:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 9:31 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:57:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The point is that having a teacher or even a former cop or FBI agent in
a school to protect the kids and teachers is fraught with stupidity and
danger in addition to that posed by a crazed shooter. The fact that two
of the three incidents were related to teachers is not the issue...the
issue is that these so-called solutions are simple-minded. Schools have
many entrances and windows, and even if these are locked, a determined
shooter would have no problem getting inside. And since most of them
don't care whether they live or die, they could shoot up several
classrooms before someone with a gun showed up to defend the kids. And
it is likely the "protector" would be shot, too.

I agree that untrained or marginally trained people are worse than
having nobody there at all but just assuming you are going to let an
active shooter go until they run out of ammo or a swat team can get
there is not a viable answer either.
Part of the answer might just be an alarm and good locks on the
classroom doors.

On the other hand, if these people were willing to go to Gunsite for a
couple weeks, I see no problem arming them.
Maybe if they taught proper self defense tactics in college, you would
be more in favor of it

Funny you should mention Gunsite Academy.

You thinking about going?

Yes, if I can work out the familial "logistics."

Things like "why in the hell are we spending $10,000+ so you can shoot
zombies better"?

Tell me again, who is the prepper here?

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons.

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.

Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

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