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Default As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...

On 10/2/14 1:03 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:19:19 -0400, Poco Loco
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 10:49:42 -0400,
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You have to note that Germany also decides at a fairly early age who
is not going to college. They get sent off the trades schools or just
get taught how a mop works.
Someone who is a "late bloomer" is going to be putting wheels on
Volkswagens or sweeping up the shop.
That is one reason why K-12 students apply themselves more than they
do in the US.

That's true in much of Europe, but here the liberals would be the
first to whine about the loss of civil rights if we made 'free'
college dependant upon achievement.

My Dutch friend's grandson finished his big tests last spring for the
university. He didn't do well enough. He gets one more chance, after a
lot of summer school, which is not free.



Oh no!
Not the "T" word.
The teachers union does not want us to actually test how well our
students are learning. They also do not want to be paid based on
performance, only time in grade and post graduate education (paid for
by the school system).


Guess they don't trust you to measure performance. Hardly surprising.



The problem with the "performance testing" is that too much of it is
dependent upon rote memory. It does not test whether the kids are
learning how to think. The other major problem, of course, is that it
penalizes teachers (scapegoats) for situations entirely beyond their
control, such as a bad home environment. Another problem: sometimes a
good teacher is replaced mid-semester by a retired racist old Army fart
who does his best to see that minority kids fail.