Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl
wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

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That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very
often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking
about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the
famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past
Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home
with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg





Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it
operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for
sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically
for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts.
They may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use
for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the
PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.



And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to
what, 3,023?


Hardly. I don't know what the exact number is but I've looked at many
guns on the various manufacturer's websites. More often than not when
I find a gun of interest, it is banned in MA. What number of those
are pocket pistols, I don't know.

Below is a link to the current "Approved List" by the Executive Office
of Public Safety and Security which is the MA safety testing agency.

Please note the sentence in the third paragraph:

"Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply
with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales
Regulations".

That sentence is the rub. Just because a gun is on the "Approved
List" by the testing agency doesn't mean it's MA compliant. It also
requires the approval of the Attorney General's office and they
disapprove "Approved" models based on whatever subjective criteria
they feel like applying. For example, you will note that there are
many GLock models on the "Approved List" by the testing agency. Try
to buy a Glock here. Last I knew there was *one* model that was MA
compliant. Same with all the Beretta models.

As previously mentioned, MA residents can't even order ammo on-line.
You have to buy it in person, show your permit and the sale is recorded.

I don't care about the recording part. I'd just like to be able to
order on-line like just like in about every other state.

But fear not. The rules and procedures for gun ownership in MA will
likely be coming to a state and town like yours in the future.
Just think. Romneycare was the example adopted for Omamacare.

Here's that "Approved List" link that doesn't mean any of the
particular models is MA compliant or legal to sell:

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster02-2014.pdf







There aren't 3000 on the entire list - OK, I didn't count them all.
There certainly aren't even 100 pocket pistols. Where does Harry come
up with this bull****?