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F*O*A*D

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages

Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.

I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.

Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.

D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?