[Mr. Luddite]

On 2/12/2016 6:31 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 5:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2016 1:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 9:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2016 9:36 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2016 9:04 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 8:52 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 7:36:32 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze
wrote:
...Bernie for being Jewish?

We'll see. Meanwhile, here's what they did last year in Missouri:

By Kali Holloway

March 5, 2015

The suicide last week of Tom Schweich, a Missouri auditor and
candidate
for governor, sent the state's political scene into a tailspin.
Now,
the
chair of the Missouri Republican party is accused of leading an
anti-Semitic smear campaign that contributed to Schweich's
decision to
take his own life.

U.S. Senator John C. Danforth, for whom Schweich served as
chief-of-staff earlier in his career, delivered the eulogy at his
colleague's funeral early this week. In his remarks, Danforth
spoke
openly of his "overwhelming anger that politics has gone so
hideously
wrong, and that the death of Tom Schweich is the natural
consequence of
what politics has become."

It was a pointed criticism of the ugly tone the GOP primary race
for
governor had taken in recent weeks. A group called Citizens For
Fairness, a backer of Schweich's opponent Catherine Hanaway,
aired a
radio ad that took personal jabs at Sweich's appearance. "Is he a
weak
candidate for governor?" a voiceover in the ad asked rhetorically.
"Absolutely. Just look at him. He could be easily confused for the
deputy sheriff of Mayberry."

But friends and colleagues say Schweich was most troubled by
rumors
being spread by John Hancock, chair of the Missouri Republican
party,
that Schweich was Jewish. According to Schweich, Hancock was
hoping to
exploit anti-Semitic sentiments among donors. Hancock has since
denied
the allegations, although he recently wrote that "it is possible
that
[he] mentioned Tom's faith in passing."

"There was absolutely nothing malicious about my intent, and I
certainly
was not attempting to 'inject religion' into the governor's
race, as
some have suggested."

Schweich, whose grandfather was Jewish, was a practicing
Episcopalian.
In a conversation with an editor from the St. Louis
Post-Dispatch in
the
days just before his suicide, Schweich reportedly said he was
"very
proud of his connection to the Jewish faith."

For his part, Danforth made clear that he rejects Hancock's
claims of
innocence. At one point in Schweich's eulogy, he described the
aforementioned radio ad as "bullying." He added: "And there is one
word
to describe the person behind it: 'bully.'"

"Tom called this anti-Semitism, and of course it was. The only
reason
for going around saying that someone is Jewish is to make
political
profit from religious bigotry. Someone said this was no different
than
saying a person is a Presbyterian. Here's how to test the
credibility of
that remark: When was the last time anyone sidled up to you and
whispered into your ear that such and such a person is a
Presbyterian?"
- - -

Republicans...the stench upon the earth. Just look at some of the
GOPers
in this newsgroup...right, Ku Klux Herring?

No they won't but you keep bringing up his ethnic background.
why is
that?





Because spreading hate and fear-mongering on the basis of religion,
ethnic background, country of origin, race, gender, et cetera, are a
big
part of this year's GOP campaign. What do you think most of your
fellas
seeking the nomination are selling out there, peace and brotherhood?

Spreading hate on the basis of being conservative seems to be a big
part
of *your* campaign here.

Can't believe you wrote that comment above ... i.e. .. "Republicans
...
the stench upon the earth".

You may not agree with most Republicans politically but there *are*
many
very good and decent people on the earth that don't share your
political
views and call themselves Republicans.

Why do you insist on creating even more division?



I didn't mention "conservative." I mentioned Republican candidates
"spreading hate and fear-mongering on the basis of religion,
ethnic background, country of origin, race, gender, et cetera."

Are you saying fear mongering is a conservative value?


No, but nice try. I was referring to your comment, (and I quote
again),

"Republicans...the stench upon the earth."

Is this really necessary?



When I consider the sort of hatemongers the GOP has supported and is
supporting for the highest elected offices in the country, it is
difficult to come to a different conclusion. Politicians like Trump,
Çruz, Fiorino, Santorum, Huckabee, Palin, et cetera, arise from the
stench and thrive in it.


Then I can only conclude that your manner is no different than those you
are complaining about.




How is that, Luddite? Look at what the GOP is throwing up at us. Donald
Trump? Cruz? Santorum? Fiorino? Loud mouthed nothings.

I rest my case. You may as well be Trump talking except he hasn't
described Democrats as "the stench upon the earth." At least not yet.

I just saw him (again) on MSNBC. He has vowed not to use "foul
language" anymore. Heh. I wonder how long that promise will last.
I figure about as long as his brain stays ahead of his mouth, which
should only be about 3 or 4 minutes, tops.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:31:21 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/12/16 5:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2016 1:57 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 9:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2016 9:36 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2016 9:04 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/12/16 8:52 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 7:36:32 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
...Bernie for being Jewish?

We'll see. Meanwhile, here's what they did last year in Missouri:

By Kali Holloway

March 5, 2015

The suicide last week of Tom Schweich, a Missouri auditor and
candidate
for governor, sent the state's political scene into a tailspin.
Now,
the
chair of the Missouri Republican party is accused of leading an
anti-Semitic smear campaign that contributed to Schweich's
decision to
take his own life.

U.S. Senator John C. Danforth, for whom Schweich served as
chief-of-staff earlier in his career, delivered the eulogy at his
colleague's funeral early this week. In his remarks, Danforth spoke
openly of his "overwhelming anger that politics has gone so
hideously
wrong, and that the death of Tom Schweich is the natural
consequence of
what politics has become."

It was a pointed criticism of the ugly tone the GOP primary race
for
governor had taken in recent weeks. A group called Citizens For
Fairness, a backer of Schweich's opponent Catherine Hanaway,
aired a
radio ad that took personal jabs at Sweich's appearance. "Is he a
weak
candidate for governor?" a voiceover in the ad asked rhetorically.
"Absolutely. Just look at him. He could be easily confused for the
deputy sheriff of Mayberry."

But friends and colleagues say Schweich was most troubled by rumors
being spread by John Hancock, chair of the Missouri Republican
party,
that Schweich was Jewish. According to Schweich, Hancock was
hoping to
exploit anti-Semitic sentiments among donors. Hancock has since
denied
the allegations, although he recently wrote that "it is possible
that
[he] mentioned Tom's faith in passing."

"There was absolutely nothing malicious about my intent, and I
certainly
was not attempting to 'inject religion' into the governor's
race, as
some have suggested."

Schweich, whose grandfather was Jewish, was a practicing
Episcopalian.
In a conversation with an editor from the St. Louis
Post-Dispatch in
the
days just before his suicide, Schweich reportedly said he was "very
proud of his connection to the Jewish faith."

For his part, Danforth made clear that he rejects Hancock's
claims of
innocence. At one point in Schweich's eulogy, he described the
aforementioned radio ad as "bullying." He added: "And there is one
word
to describe the person behind it: 'bully.'"

"Tom called this anti-Semitism, and of course it was. The only
reason
for going around saying that someone is Jewish is to make political
profit from religious bigotry. Someone said this was no different
than
saying a person is a Presbyterian. Here's how to test the
credibility of
that remark: When was the last time anyone sidled up to you and
whispered into your ear that such and such a person is a
Presbyterian?"
- - -

Republicans...the stench upon the earth. Just look at some of the
GOPers
in this newsgroup...right, Ku Klux Herring?

No they won't but you keep bringing up his ethnic background. why is
that?





Because spreading hate and fear-mongering on the basis of religion,
ethnic background, country of origin, race, gender, et cetera, are a
big
part of this year's GOP campaign. What do you think most of your
fellas
seeking the nomination are selling out there, peace and brotherhood?

Spreading hate on the basis of being conservative seems to be a big
part
of *your* campaign here.

Can't believe you wrote that comment above ... i.e. .. "Republicans
...
the stench upon the earth".

You may not agree with most Republicans politically but there *are*
many
very good and decent people on the earth that don't share your
political
views and call themselves Republicans.

Why do you insist on creating even more division?



I didn't mention "conservative." I mentioned Republican candidates
"spreading hate and fear-mongering on the basis of religion,
ethnic background, country of origin, race, gender, et cetera."

Are you saying fear mongering is a conservative value?


No, but nice try. I was referring to your comment, (and I quote
again),

"Republicans...the stench upon the earth."

Is this really necessary?



When I consider the sort of hatemongers the GOP has supported and is
supporting for the highest elected offices in the country, it is
difficult to come to a different conclusion. Politicians like Trump,
Çruz, Fiorino, Santorum, Huckabee, Palin, et cetera, arise from the
stench and thrive in it.


Then I can only conclude that your manner is no different than those you
are complaining about.


How is that, Luddite? Look at what the GOP is throwing up at us. Donald
Trump? Cruz? Santorum? Fiorino? Loud mouthed nothings.

Frothy and Carly are not there anymore. Try to keep up.

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On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:51:01 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I rest my case. You may as well be Trump talking except he hasn't
described Democrats as "the stench upon the earth." At least not yet.

I just saw him (again) on MSNBC. He has vowed not to use "foul
language" anymore. Heh. I wonder how long that promise will last.
I figure about as long as his brain stays ahead of his mouth, which
should only be about 3 or 4 minutes, tops.



I still would not be shocked to see Trump tone down the rhetoric a lot
once he gets through crazy season of the primaries and I imagine he
will start tapping that billion dollar war chest to put up ads the
networks would not carry for free because he sounded too sane.
People in this country have the attention span of a fruit fly and the
things they see in the last month before the election is what they
will take into the voting booth.

OTOH if we had a Perot kind of guy who would explain who will be
paying for all of the "free stuff" it might be easy to get those kids
away from Bernie. The numbers around the debt are too boggling for
most people to comprehend but a kid today has a debt equal to the
price of a small house, the day they are born.
Somebody will have to pay that back some day. It won't be us.