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BCU Coach Update
Im a bit unsure about the whole coach update thing - I see that there
are a few coach update courses (about 3 this year in scotland) and I guess they would contain everything I need to update? Do courses entitled "coaching processes" count for the update? I am finding it very hard to find out exactly what is required and I'm sure some of you guys must have updated already and can help me out.... If I do do a curse how do I then letthe SCA know - is there some sort of form? |
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On 3 Feb 2005 13:43:56 -0800, "ChipsCheeseandMayo"
wrote: snip (Adapted from BCU Coaching Directory, Section 5/23) The main purpose of updating is to ensure that coaches are kept up to date with best practice. You need to update at least every three years. The main ways of revalidating a 1. Obtaining the next level coaching award, an award in an alternative discipline, or assessor training. 2. Attending a coaching workshop. 3. Self certification. The workshops are generally run on a regional basis and tend to have a mix of theory and practical sessions and you get to meet other coaches and steal (sorry adapt) their ideas. (or so I've heard, I've never actually managed to get to one myself as they tend to be at weekends when I'm working :-( ). For local information contact your regional coaching organiser (I think that's the term), if you don't know who they are contact the SCA (0131 3177314) who will be more than happy to help. Coaching processes, roughly speaking, is about how people learn and it has been highly recommended to me. It's on my to-do list! -- Ste, Ambleside |
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In article , Ste
wrote: On 3 Feb 2005 13:43:56 -0800, "ChipsCheeseandMayo" wrote: snip (Adapted from BCU Coaching Directory, Section 5/23) The main purpose of updating is to ensure that coaches are kept up to date with best practice. Are you sure? Don't you mean 'ensure coaches are indoctrinated'? You need to update at least every three years. ....by attending a single-issue course once every 3 years - that keeps you up-to-date??? After letting my BCU membership lapse, I was told that my coaching qualification was no longer valid, as I couldn't be up-to-date if I wasn't a member. Best bit ....but I could revalidate the award by paying the back-fees. Which, amazingly, would bring me back-on-track with their current practice! (BTW, I wasn't the only one in this situation) In the meantime, I had done more technical research than anyone else, written coaching newsletters, developed a new approach to teaching technique, presented numerous lectures to packed audiences, run a development squad (officially!), coached national champions and International team paddlers and taught on level 3 courses by request... I refused to pay, stating that I thought it was corrupt. /Best bit 3. Self certification. Ah, yes. BCU to a tee. Once certified, expulsion from the Union as 'mentally sick' - isn't that what happens? Allan Bennett Not a fan of the certified -- |
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:19:45 +0000, Allan Bennett
wrote: In article , Ste wrote: (Adapted from BCU Coaching Directory, Section 5/23) The main purpose of updating is to ensure that coaches are kept up to date with best practice. Are you sure? Don't you mean 'ensure coaches are indoctrinated'? You need to update at least every three years. ...by attending a single-issue course once every 3 years - that keeps you up-to-date??? I was intentionally trying to keep it factual. Whether or not I actually agree with how the system is set up, in order to work I need to have a valid BCU qualification so I have to satisfy the update requirements in some form. I seem to recall that three years were chosen as this coincides with the validity of first aid certificates and three years is certainly better than before 2002 when there was no requirement to keep up to date once qualified, just to keep your membership paid... After letting my BCU membership lapse, I was told that my coaching qualification was no longer valid, as I couldn't be up-to-date if I wasn't a member. Best bit ...but I could revalidate the award by paying the back-fees. Which, amazingly, would bring me back-on-track with their current practice! (BTW, I wasn't the only one in this situation) snip I've heard that quite a few people have had the same problem and it's these sort of policies that give the BCU a bad name. If people want to coach surely the BCU should be encouraging it rather than trying to screw as much money out of them as possible. -- Ste, Ambleside |
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To be honest I'm not too bothered about the politics of it - I just
want to now how the revalidation works so I can keep getting paid... |
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On 4 Feb 2005 07:38:40 -0800, "ChipsCheeseandMayo"
wrote: To be honest I'm not too bothered about the politics of it - I just want to now how the revalidation works so I can keep getting paid... That's pretty much how I see it. The system may not be perfect but it's the system I have to work within so I just get on with it. I've got better things to do than get involved in political arguments, like going paddling! -- Ste, Ambleside |
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"Allan Bennett" wrote in message
... After letting my BCU membership lapse, I was told that my coaching qualification was no longer valid, as I couldn't be up-to-date if I wasn't a member. That is a requirement of most organisations that you stay a member for them to confirm you are up to date. ...but I could revalidate the award by paying the back-fees. Which, amazingly, would bring me back-on-track with their current practice! The revalidation method adopted is not ideal but it is reasonably practical and they are gradually strengthening it to bring it into line with what operators want. In the meantime, I had done more technical research than anyone else, written coaching newsletters, developed a new approach to teaching technique, presented numerous lectures to packed audiences, run a development squad (officially!), coached national champions and International team paddlers and taught on level 3 courses by request... That's fine if you can persuade centres to accept this - and why shouldn't they - then that is up to you. If you don't need it for a job, then it doesn't matter anyway. I refused to pay, stating that I thought it was corrupt. HArdly |
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Broooz wrote:
"Allan Bennett" wrote in message ... After letting my BCU membership lapse, I was told that my coaching qualification was no longer valid, as I couldn't be up-to-date if I wasn't a member. That is a requirement of most organisations that you stay a member for them to confirm you are up to date. ...but I could revalidate the award by paying the back-fees. Which, amazingly, would bring me back-on-track with their current practice! Do you think it's just /possibly/ something to do with a problem with the ethical side of this that has caused him to let his membership lapse in the first place? I refused to pay, stating that I thought it was corrupt. HArdly So it's Perfectly All Right for an organisation to declare you Safe and Completely Up To Speed purely because you've given them some money? Surely it should require evaluation of the coaching skills (which could quite reasonably involve a fee) to decide if the person was still acceptable as a coach, rather than simply an evaluation of their bank account? Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 09:17:24 +0000, Peter Clinch
wrote: Broooz wrote: "Allan Bennett" wrote in message ... After letting my BCU membership lapse, I was told that my coaching qualification was no longer valid, as I couldn't be up-to-date if I wasn't a member. That is a requirement of most organisations that you stay a member for them to confirm you are up to date. ...but I could revalidate the award by paying the back-fees. Which, amazingly, would bring me back-on-track with their current practice! Do you think it's just /possibly/ something to do with a problem with the ethical side of this that has caused him to let his membership lapse in the first place? I refused to pay, stating that I thought it was corrupt. HArdly So it's Perfectly All Right for an organisation to declare you Safe and Completely Up To Speed purely because you've given them some money? Surely it should require evaluation of the coaching skills (which could quite reasonably involve a fee) to decide if the person was still acceptable as a coach, rather than simply an evaluation of their bank account? Revalidation is rife with problems, at least in paddling we have options that include further training, assessment and aknowledgement of coaching record ( although each and all of them can be fudged by those with a will). We put in about 500 coaching hours each year, that is hours times pupils, we can revalidate through our log book. However, so too can a Coach who does 20 hours a year. I'm not saying we are perfect, but that makes for a big variance in experience and I'm not sure how revalidation on that basis alone can be valid. HST, I'm not even sure that attending a coachin conference will make that much difference anyway. Ewan Scott |
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In article . com,
ChipsCheeseandMayo wrote: Im a bit unsure about the whole coach update thing - I see that there are a few coach update courses (about 3 this year in scotland) and I guess they would contain everything I need to update? Do courses entitled "coaching processes" count for the update? I am finding it very hard to find out exactly what is required and I'm sure some of you guys must have updated already and can help me out.... If I do do a curse how do I then letthe SCA know - is there some sort of form? Curse is about right!!! Usually, updating requires handing over vouchers with the Queen's head on... (at least in England). Allan Bennett Not a fan of forms -- |
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