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dh@. September 12th 05 09:37 PM

looking for mini pontoons
 
Hi,

I'm looking for some small pontoons...just the pontoons and
nothing else. Used or new. I'm interested in available options
for getting both. Can anyone suggest where to get them?

Thanks,
David

[email protected] September 12th 05 10:03 PM

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).


dh@. September 12th 05 10:10 PM

On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).


I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


Ed Edelenbos September 13th 05 12:28 AM

dh@. wrote in message ...
On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).


I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


I'd like to hear of what you might find (or what anyone might know about
pricing for 12"d pipe.) A quick calculation says that a 10 foot section
would be (roughly) good for 500 lbs at full submersion. A pair would be
good for 500 lbs at half submersion... I couldn't find the weight per foot
of the pipe itself. If it is cost effective, I could see a project or 2
that it would be perfect for.

Ed



Frank Wiewandt September 13th 05 03:52 AM

Hey Ed,

Didn't expect to see your name pop up over here. I'm used to you
posting over on rmmga. What sort of boat do you play with & what
projects do you have in mind for the PVC pipes? Might keep your music
dry at sea. ;-)

Frank Wiewandt



JamesgangNC September 13th 05 04:02 AM

Looks like you can get sched 40 pvc up to 16" in diameter in 20 ft lengths.
I was only able to find wholesale skid pricing, not retail. It worked out
to individual prices, all 20 ft lengths:

10" = $8.20 each skid qty 220
12" = $23.15 each skid qty 120
14" = $54.68 each skid qty 60
16" = $71.50 each skid qty 60

You could probably build a full size pontoon with the bigger sizes. Only
trouble is that skid is about a ton of pipe. Is there a uv issue with pvc?
Guess you could paint it.

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
dh@. wrote in message ...
On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).


I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


I'd like to hear of what you might find (or what anyone might know about
pricing for 12"d pipe.) A quick calculation says that a 10 foot section
would be (roughly) good for 500 lbs at full submersion. A pair would be
good for 500 lbs at half submersion... I couldn't find the weight per
foot of the pipe itself. If it is cost effective, I could see a project
or 2 that it would be perfect for.

Ed




Ed Edelenbos September 13th 05 05:19 AM

Hi Frank. Now I look and see that it is crossposted to so many groups...
I read it on r.b.building. I've built a couple small boats (kayak, and a
one sheet rowboat). I'm thinking of a small (maybe not quite one-person,
two person or one and a kid or two) deck/pontoon boat. Big enough for me
and a guitar and staying dry. I like the image. I've been boating for
hmmm..... over 40 years now. The majority has been on the Chesapeake Bay.
Right now we have a place on the Susquehanna River between dams...
essentially a big 1mi. by 8mi. or so lake.

Great minds run in the same circles. And sometimes so does mine.
Ed

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When replying via email, replace spam with speak in the address.
"Frank Wiewandt" wrote in message
...
Hey Ed,

Didn't expect to see your name pop up over here. I'm used to you
posting over on rmmga. What sort of boat do you play with & what
projects do you have in mind for the PVC pipes? Might keep your music
dry at sea. ;-)

Frank Wiewandt





Bill McKee September 13th 05 06:02 AM


"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
Looks like you can get sched 40 pvc up to 16" in diameter in 20 ft
lengths. I was only able to find wholesale skid pricing, not retail. It
worked out to individual prices, all 20 ft lengths:

10" = $8.20 each skid qty 220
12" = $23.15 each skid qty 120
14" = $54.68 each skid qty 60
16" = $71.50 each skid qty 60

You could probably build a full size pontoon with the bigger sizes. Only
trouble is that skid is about a ton of pipe. Is there a uv issue with
pvc? Guess you could paint it.

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
dh@. wrote in message
...
On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).

I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


I'd like to hear of what you might find (or what anyone might know about
pricing for 12"d pipe.) A quick calculation says that a 10 foot section
would be (roughly) good for 500 lbs at full submersion. A pair would be
good for 500 lbs at half submersion... I couldn't find the weight per
foot of the pipe itself. If it is cost effective, I could see a project
or 2 that it would be perfect for.

Ed




Go to an irrigation supply company.



JamesgangNC September 13th 05 01:40 PM

The only thing I've ever seen in that industry sector in large sizes is the
black corrugated stuff. Althhough I have seen a corrugated with a smooth
inside wall that was pretty stiff. I'm thinking the only market for big pvc
is developers and city services.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
link.net...

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
Looks like you can get sched 40 pvc up to 16" in diameter in 20 ft
lengths. I was only able to find wholesale skid pricing, not retail. It
worked out to individual prices, all 20 ft lengths:

10" = $8.20 each skid qty 220
12" = $23.15 each skid qty 120
14" = $54.68 each skid qty 60
16" = $71.50 each skid qty 60

You could probably build a full size pontoon with the bigger sizes. Only
trouble is that skid is about a ton of pipe. Is there a uv issue with
pvc? Guess you could paint it.

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
dh@. wrote in message
...
On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).

I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


I'd like to hear of what you might find (or what anyone might know about
pricing for 12"d pipe.) A quick calculation says that a 10 foot section
would be (roughly) good for 500 lbs at full submersion. A pair would be
good for 500 lbs at half submersion... I couldn't find the weight per
foot of the pipe itself. If it is cost effective, I could see a project
or 2 that it would be perfect for.

Ed




Go to an irrigation supply company.




MMC September 13th 05 08:23 PM

Little hard to get to your guns if you're being attacked while kayaking I
would think.....
wrote in message
oups.com...
If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough should
you want to burry them : )).




MMC September 13th 05 08:26 PM

What about drop tanks? I would think the hydrodynamics would be great.
"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
Hi Frank. Now I look and see that it is crossposted to so many groups...
I read it on r.b.building. I've built a couple small boats (kayak, and a
one sheet rowboat). I'm thinking of a small (maybe not quite one-person,
two person or one and a kid or two) deck/pontoon boat. Big enough for me
and a guitar and staying dry. I like the image. I've been boating for
hmmm..... over 40 years now. The majority has been on the Chesapeake

Bay.
Right now we have a place on the Susquehanna River between dams...
essentially a big 1mi. by 8mi. or so lake.

Great minds run in the same circles. And sometimes so does mine.
Ed

--
When replying via email, replace spam with speak in the address.
"Frank Wiewandt" wrote in message
...
Hey Ed,

Didn't expect to see your name pop up over here. I'm used to you
posting over on rmmga. What sort of boat do you play with & what
projects do you have in mind for the PVC pipes? Might keep your music
dry at sea. ;-)

Frank Wiewandt







Bill McKee September 14th 05 06:20 AM

Farms, use the 12" as part of the distribution network.

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
The only thing I've ever seen in that industry sector in large sizes is
the black corrugated stuff. Althhough I have seen a corrugated with a
smooth inside wall that was pretty stiff. I'm thinking the only market for
big pvc is developers and city services.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
link.net...

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...
Looks like you can get sched 40 pvc up to 16" in diameter in 20 ft
lengths. I was only able to find wholesale skid pricing, not retail. It
worked out to individual prices, all 20 ft lengths:

10" = $8.20 each skid qty 220
12" = $23.15 each skid qty 120
14" = $54.68 each skid qty 60
16" = $71.50 each skid qty 60

You could probably build a full size pontoon with the bigger sizes.
Only trouble is that skid is about a ton of pipe. Is there a uv issue
with pvc? Guess you could paint it.

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...
dh@. wrote in message
...
On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:

If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough
should
you want to burry them : )).

I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


I'd like to hear of what you might find (or what anyone might know
about pricing for 12"d pipe.) A quick calculation says that a 10 foot
section would be (roughly) good for 500 lbs at full submersion. A pair
would be good for 500 lbs at half submersion... I couldn't find the
weight per foot of the pipe itself. If it is cost effective, I could
see a project or 2 that it would be perfect for.

Ed




Go to an irrigation supply company.






SteveL September 14th 05 01:45 PM

dh@. wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking for some small pontoons...just the pontoons and
nothing else. Used or new. I'm interested in available options
for getting both. Can anyone suggest where to get them?

Thanks,
David


Try Jack's Plastic Welding
http://www.jpwinc.com/customtubestyles.html

Steve

Terry Spragg September 15th 05 03:24 PM

Build your own.

Pool noodles with holes down the middle cut in half, staggered,
lashed with string, a sailcloth cover bag, pulled snug, and you can
make your own. Doubles as pillows, lifebelt, MOB recovery toy (all
the kids should know how) trebuchet personal launch sling, sea
luggage, hammock, what else? Could use pressurized pepsi bottles,
but not as good.

Cheap enough?

How mini? 50 gal drums, spaced and lashed inside 14 strapped 12
degree bevelled planks of wood 5 1/2 " wide inside, chain or fence
wire "X" ties, bridge beams at top, light deck. Upside down, heavy
fish scow. Hinged, perfect swim platform.

A hole in the deck makes it a great mooring service raft. Cast your
mooring grindstones at low tide, pick em up at high with no work,
only patience.

The scow is partly full of water, but can move netted fish alive.
You could build up a standalone open transom outboard rack with
removeable 2X4 legs/ braces. It'll plane, empty. With a styrofoam
insulated bottom and a top deck, It'd even keep them warm and dry.

Disassembles easily to go ashore by one man. Portageable.
With bilge boards and a derrick mast, It'll sail. When you get where
you're going, the boards could make a cabin roof, the barrels, wind
wall and storage, the sails, national flags, even parachutes.

If you tie a piece of rope around the drum necks, leaving footloops,
even after a terrible crash and dissassembly (Dissassembly!?),
there's lots of flotsam for aspiring drownees.

My cableferry catamaran for icy climes and glacier sailing. Could
add skate blades. Two on end could make a warm ice fishing hut.

Now, to add an airboat prop and rogallo wings a la
flyingbeachboat.com , or a bicycle drive prop or two. I wonder if a
lawn mower could make it a hovercraft?

Wanna picture?

Terry K


Bill McKee wrote:
Farms, use the 12" as part of the distribution network.

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
link.net...

The only thing I've ever seen in that industry sector in large sizes is
the black corrugated stuff. Althhough I have seen a corrugated with a
smooth inside wall that was pretty stiff. I'm thinking the only market for
big pvc is developers and city services.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"JamesgangNC" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

Looks like you can get sched 40 pvc up to 16" in diameter in 20 ft
lengths. I was only able to find wholesale skid pricing, not retail. It
worked out to individual prices, all 20 ft lengths:

10" = $8.20 each skid qty 220
12" = $23.15 each skid qty 120
14" = $54.68 each skid qty 60
16" = $71.50 each skid qty 60

You could probably build a full size pontoon with the bigger sizes.
Only trouble is that skid is about a ton of pipe. Is there a uv issue
with pvc? Guess you could paint it.

"Ed Edelenbos" wrote in message
...

dh@. wrote in message
om...

On 12 Sep 2005 14:03:34 -0700, wrote:


If it's for a kayak or canoe you may look up sponsons.
Sponsons have become a nasty word in the kayak news groups because
there were some safety accusations made concerning their lack of use.
That or you could make something up with PVC pipe and end caps.
( The latter is great for Hiding guns in. (Water tight and tough
should
you want to burry them : )).

I'm looking for something more about this size:

http://www.islander-pontoon-boats.com/hydro-bike.html

Maybe PVC would work...


I'd like to hear of what you might find (or what anyone might know
about pricing for 12"d pipe.) A quick calculation says that a 10 foot
section would be (roughly) good for 500 lbs at full submersion. A pair
would be good for 500 lbs at half submersion... I couldn't find the
weight per foot of the pipe itself. If it is cost effective, I could
see a project or 2 that it would be perfect for.

Ed



Go to an irrigation supply company.







[email protected] September 17th 05 12:01 AM

Loyola Pomroy of Island Rendezvous , Woody Island Newfoundland has
large pontoons on a floating wharf that would be ideal for you. That
floats a dock and can be used as a barge to carry about 40 kayaks when
the weather gets "BAD!!"
Loyola is a good fellow to talk to as well.
He is brilliant at this stuff.
If you search Island rendezvous or Woody Island Resort you should find
them.



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