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Cliff Kotnik January 25th 04 05:48 PM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
I'm evaluating tandem kayaks for a purchase this spring. I will
sometimes want to paddle solo.

I'm interested in opinions on whether I should look for a model with an
adjustable seat so that solo operation is from the middle or if solo
paddling from the rear seat is just as good.

Thanks,
Cliff


Geoff Jennings January 26th 04 12:34 AM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 

Very few tandems will paddle well solo. Adjustable seats are certainly
better, but consider buying two boats, or renting if either use will only be
occasional. Any convertible boat will be a compromise.

That said, you might want to look at the Seda "amigo" I haven't paddled one,
but it looks like an interesting idea. Of course, for the price, you could
probably pick up a used plasitc tandem, and a used plastic single. What
uses do you anticipate?

Geoff



Serge January 27th 04 02:52 AM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
1.I have "Echo" by Wilderness Systems (24"x18') that, I've heard,
people can paddle solo because it is so slim.

2. There is a "convertible" tandem kayak concept that requires shifting
seat by 10" forward when solo. Dimensions similar to "Echo", but wider.
Search for "convertible kayak" and you'll find the maker.

b wrench January 27th 04 04:26 AM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
Check out the Simon River Sports Arrow. It has a third, center cockpit
that allows it to be paddled solo. www.simonriversports.com
Bill


lcopps January 27th 04 06:52 AM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
Most open cockpit folders can be configured for tandem or solo. Look for
kayaks from Klepper, Folbot, or Nautrid. Many people paddle solo from
the back seat. I do this myself with my Klepper when I am to lazy to
move the seat. The only problem is the kayaks tend to weathercock (the
wind tends to blow them off coarse easier), unless you weight the front
end. Some people put water bags or coolers in the front seat. I just
correct my coarse more often with my paddle. If you paddle with a
rudder, it shouldn't make a difference unless you encounter a really
strong wind.

Check out http://www.foldingkayaks.org/

Cliff Kotnik wrote:

I'm evaluating tandem kayaks for a purchase this spring. I will
sometimes want to paddle solo.

I'm interested in opinions on whether I should look for a model with an
adjustable seat so that solo operation is from the middle or if solo
paddling from the rear seat is just as good.

Thanks,
Cliff



Eric Nyre January 28th 04 02:10 AM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
Hi Cliff,

If you want more information on the Seda Amigo, I built a site at

http://www.canoecolorado.com/kayaking/seda/amigo

It works, but it is a compromise boat. It is really a better choice
for a parent who wants a boat they can use with or without a child.

For two adults, it is too small. Likewise any tandem which is large
enough for two adults will probably be too large to solo.


Eric

Serge January 31st 04 11:08 PM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
I just paddled my "Echo" double (24"x 18.5') alone. It should say
handles fine fore occasional paddling. Better than some plastic "tubs"
I've been in.


You just have to put small sandbag or chains in the front hatch to
weigh
it down a bit.

Echo is discontinued, though. You can find it used, I saw one on E-bay
a year or so ago for $1500.
Another small tandem was made by Lincoln kayaks and had same
dimensions.

All other tandems are made having outfitters in mind (rentals and
touring)
and are made excessively heavy and wide.

I don't know about convertible boats: the one with shifting seat has
cockpit that is too long (knee bracing?) and another with central
hatch will require
seat installation and two cockpit covers. Again none of them is narrow
enough.

I would prefer just to through weight in and wrestle it to the water.
I think it weighs 60lb which is another issue with tandems if you want
to paddle (and load/unload) alone.

Cliff Kotnik February 1st 04 01:05 AM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
Geoff Jennings wrote:
Very few tandems will paddle well solo. Adjustable seats are certainly
better, but consider buying two boats, or renting if either use will only be
occasional. Any convertible boat will be a compromise.

That said, you might want to look at the Seda "amigo" I haven't paddled one,
but it looks like an interesting idea. Of course, for the price, you could
probably pick up a used plasitc tandem, and a used plastic single. What
uses do you anticipate?

Geoff


I'm thinking of lakes and reservoirs in the Rockies...fishing and day trips.

Cliff


Jeff Shafer February 5th 04 11:54 PM

Kayak Tandem/Solo Seat Adjustment Required?
 
Visit a dealer that sells a variety of tandem kayaks, and compare hull
design and structure. You'll find that there is quite a difference
between manufacturers. When I made this comparison I selected a
Wilderness System Pamlico (15.5' in length). I have paddled this
kayak solo several times, with the front seat slid back to the middle
of the kayak. Very easy to adjust. This kayak handles well as a
single.

Or, if you can't see tandems side by side in person, visit
manufacturers websites and compare dimensions. Or write to the Jersey
Paddler (don't have their website handy). They sell several
manufacturers tandems and they might be willing to offer their advice
on which model handles best solo.

Good Luck,
Jeff Shafer



Cliff Kotnik wrote in message ...
I'm evaluating tandem kayaks for a purchase this spring. I will
sometimes want to paddle solo.

I'm interested in opinions on whether I should look for a model with an
adjustable seat so that solo operation is from the middle or if solo
paddling from the rear seat is just as good.

Thanks,
Cliff



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