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PhotoBuff wrote:
I have a Whetstone T-1 Carbon Fiber Paddle for sale. I tis 210 CM and 2 piece. Little use. If you want a super nice well made light paddle this is it. $190 including shipping. Ed in Raleigh $190??!! That's about what they retail for! I'll give you $100, tops! :-( -- John Kuthe, 1st rule of Govt: protect people from Govt 2nd rule of Govt: protect people from each other BUT: It must *never* become the job of Govt to protect people from themselves! |
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PhotoBuff wrote: In article , says... PhotoBuff wrote: I have a Whetstone T-1 Carbon Fiber Paddle for sale. I tis 210 CM and 2 piece. Little use. If you want a super nice well made light paddle this is it. $190 including shipping. Ed in Raleigh $190??!! That's about what they retail for! I'll give you $100, tops! :-( No actually I paid $225 plus shipping from them and they are no longer making padles or anything else. If you want a genuine Whetstone you have to buy a used one. They've dropped their accessory line, but they're still making paddles. As much as I like Whetstone paddles, they're hardly collecors items that command high prices used. -- Regards Brian |
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Or ONNO paddles... IMHO everybit as good as a Whetstone and very
inexpensive. I have to agree with Brian, you paddle is a good one, but your price is very near the price of new. w. "PhotoBuff" wrote in message m... In article , says... PhotoBuff wrote: -- Regards Brian Not to argue the point but I have tried repeatedly to call and to email them ...no luck. I was going to order a new 230 but they are closed as best as I or anyone else can tell. It is not a collectors item but it is one superior carbon fiber paddle and it is worth $190 including the shipping. Check Werner prices ...or Waterstick |
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From: PhotoBuff Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle,rec.boats.paddle.touring Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 09:15:37 -0400 Subject: FS: Carbon Fiber Paddle In article 3ooSa.89809$GL4.25037@rwcrnsc53, says... Or ONNO paddles... IMHO everybit as good as a Whetstone and very inexpensive. I have to agree with Brian, your paddle is a good one, but your price is very near the price of new. w. I do not think $190 including shipping is unreasonable for a like new paddle that cost $240 including shipping. It was your choice to pay a premium for shipping. Standard shipping from Whetstone is $10 not $20. Would you impose that cost on your buyer or would you allow them to choose a more reasonable shipping method? Ordering a paddle brand new and sight unseen from an on line retailer is a leap of faith for most people. Doing so for a used paddle from an individual who's idea of "like new" may be quite different from that of the buyer is an even more extreme leap of faith. Since there are new alternatives out there that may not have existed when you bought your Whetstone paddle, the market would logically be looking for better value in a used purchase. In case you are not aware, they charge a premimum for custom length and a 210 CM paddle is a custom length to them (or so they charged me anyway). And to most of the paddlers out here, for a touring paddle, 210 is somewhat short. Making it not only custom, but somewhat odd. Therefore lowering the value as it narrows the market considerably. Their phone is disconnected. Their phone is not disconnected. Their answering system still picks up. Not trying to be a price cop, just pointing out some factors that you may not have thought of. DV |
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"David J. Van den Branden" wrote: From: PhotoBuff I do not think $190 including shipping is unreasonable for a like new paddle that cost $240 including shipping. Ordering a paddle brand new and sight unseen from an on line retailer is a leap of faith for most people. Doing so for a used paddle from an individual who's idea of "like new" may be quite different from that of the buyer is an even more extreme leap of faith. Since there are new alternatives out there that may not have existed when you bought your Whetstone paddle, the market would logically be looking for better value in a used purchase. And The Market will be the judge! Good luck PhotoBuff! If yoo sell it for the asked-for $190, congratulations! But I seriously doubt you will. Used gear is always subject to a depreciation as soon as it's bought by it's orininal first owner from the manufacturer (NO manufacturer's warranty, for example), and any used equipment's value is always up for negotiation as to the price. If you lower your asking price, you will attract more interested potential buyers. It's just the way The Market works! At your asking price of $190, you may be sitting on that paddle for a long time though! -- John Kuthe, 1st rule of Govt: protect people from Govt 2nd rule of Govt: protect people from each other BUT: It must *never* become the job of Govt to protect people from themselves! |
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And to most of the paddlers out here, for a touring paddle, 210 is somewhat short. Making it not only custom, but somewhat odd. Therefore lowering the value as it narrows the market considerably. Well, if you want to argue, 210 centimeters is not so awfully short anymore. In the current Sea Kayaker, Greg Barton says "A paddle length of 200 to 215 cm is best for ...paddlers...5'5" or less. Tall paddlers should use a length of 210 to 225 cm...Paddles longer than 230 cm should never be used." This puts PhotoBuff's 210 right in the middle of the recommended range, suitable for short and tall paddlers both. I have to defend photobuff on this matter. I'm not aware of any paddle company that makes 210 paddles for stock. As an example, my wife uses a 210 cm paddle and we had to special order it from Epic. While on the other hand, it's simple to walk into a paddle shop and buy the same Epic paddle in lengths of 215, 220, 230 cm. Also, I used a 230 cm paddle in a recreational boat I had and it was fine (wide boat at 25" width). When paddling my NDK Posedein (22") 230 is way too big. I currently use 215. Wade |
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The market also allows for offers at less than asking price and seems people would prefer to
criticize my pricing than make a VALID offer. The price is $190 including shipping. Offers considered. |
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