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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:57 -0500, L D'Bonnie wrote:

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the USS
United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that summer and
she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of it as I understood
at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65. She had the speed to do so.
At the time I heard that she was sort of like the empire state
building moving through the water at 60 knots.

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In article ,
joevan wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:57 -0500, L D'Bonnie wrote:

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the USS
United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that summer and
she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of it as I understood
at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65. She had the speed to do so.
At the time I heard that she was sort of like the empire state
building moving through the water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a fine
exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News; She was built
at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the designation
of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting sail to the present age
of nuclear and gas turbine ships.

--
Bill Collins
For email, change "fake" to "earthlink"

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And let us not forget the NS Savannah (Nuclear).

HF



On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:50:29 -0400, Bill wrote:

In article ,
joevan wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:57 -0500, L D'Bonnie wrote:

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the USS
United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that summer and
she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of it as I understood
at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65. She had the speed to do so.
At the time I heard that she was sort of like the empire state
building moving through the water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a fine
exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News; She was built
at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the designation
of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting sail to the present age
of nuclear and gas turbine ships.

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HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

And let us not forget the NS Savannah (Nuclear).

I toured the Savannah where she is moored at Patriot's Point near
Charleston, SC. Smaller than I had envisioned her.

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the
USS United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that
summer and she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of
it as I understood at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65.
She had the speed to do so. At the time I heard that she was
sort of like the empire state building moving through the
water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her
reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a
fine exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News;
She was built at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the
designation of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting
sail to the present age of nuclear and gas turbine ships.




--
HP, aka Jerry

"That's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:50:29 -0400, Bill wrote:

In article ,
joevan wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:57 -0500, L D'Bonnie wrote:

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the USS
United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that summer and
she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of it as I understood
at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65. She had the speed to do so.
At the time I heard that she was sort of like the empire state
building moving through the water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a fine
exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News; She was built
at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the designation
of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting sail to the present age
of nuclear and gas turbine ships.
She was a steam ship and fast. The fastest of them all and she in not
in Norfolk, she is just about a mile from my house here in
Philadelphia. Actually I was thinking of something else at the time
and typed the wrong stuff in. Her top speed was 43 knots.

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:49:43 GMT, joevan
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:50:29 -0400, Bill wrote:

In article ,
joevan wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:57 -0500, L D'Bonnie wrote:

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the USS
United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that summer and
she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of it as I understood
at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65. She had the speed to do so.
At the time I heard that she was sort of like the empire state
building moving through the water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a fine
exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News; She was built
at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the designation
of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting sail to the present age
of nuclear and gas turbine ships.
She was a steam ship and fast. The fastest of them all and she in not
in Norfolk, she is just about a mile from my house here in
Philadelphia. Actually I was thinking of something else at the time
and typed the wrong stuff in. Her top speed was 43 knots.

The SS US held the speed record for almost 50 years.
A little info here. Interesting bit about her hull which I was not
aware of.

http://www.ssunitedstates.org/rhw.htm

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:00:10 GMT, joevan
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:49:43 GMT, joevan
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:50:29 -0400, Bill wrote:

In article ,
joevan wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:13:57 -0500, L D'Bonnie wrote:

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the USS
United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that summer and
she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of it as I understood
at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65. She had the speed to do so.
At the time I heard that she was sort of like the empire state
building moving through the water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a fine
exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News; She was built
at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the designation
of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting sail to the present age
of nuclear and gas turbine ships.
She was a steam ship and fast. The fastest of them all and she in not
in Norfolk, she is just about a mile from my house here in
Philadelphia. Actually I was thinking of something else at the time
and typed the wrong stuff in. Her top speed was 43 knots.

The SS US held the speed record for almost 50 years.
A little info here. Interesting bit about her hull which I was not
aware of.

http://www.ssunitedstates.org/rhw.htm
Even that speed is incorrect. The value of 43 knots (49 mph) was
leaked to reporters by engineers after the first speed trial. The
actual top speed — 38.3 knots (44.1 mph) — was not revealed until
1977.

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In article ,
"HEMI-Powered" wrote:

HiFlyer added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

And let us not forget the NS Savannah (Nuclear).

I toured the Savannah where she is moored at Patriot's Point near
Charleston, SC. Smaller than I had envisioned her.

I missed that sort of fun when I came back from Europe on the
USS United states. I was told that there was a hurricane that
summer and she outran it. Took a sort of detour to stay out of
it as I understood at the time. I think that was 1964 or 65.
She had the speed to do so. At the time I heard that she was
sort of like the empire state building moving through the
water at 60 knots.

She was a big and fast ship, but I think 60 knots was out of her
reach.

Last I knew she was laid up in Norfolk, Virginia. There is a
fine exhibit about her at the mariners Museum in Newport News;
She was built at newport news Shipbuilding and Drydock Company.

Also, she is SS United States, not USS.

"SS" means Steam Ship. "USS" means United States Ship, the
designation of a U. S. Navy vessel, from the age of fighting
sail to the present age of nuclear and gas turbine ships.


Small was the NS Savannah's problem. She could not make it financially.
She was built as a small break-bulk cargo ship, just as large
containerships were coming along. Her nuclear power plant required
highly trained and therefore very expensive people. The Captain
(understandably) objected to being paid less than the Chief Engineer,
and so it went. Could not make enough money in the small break-bulk ship
to pay the high costs of her crew, not to mention the high costs of
maintenance of the nuclear power plant.

Even the U. S Navy found smaller nuclear-powered surface ships too
expensive to operate and maintain, because of the large number of
highly-trained and highly-paid nuclear power plant operating personnel,
and the high cost of overhauling the nuclear power plants. The Navy has
found that nuclear-powered aircraft carriers make sense, and of course
nuclear submarines do because they don't have to come up for air, but
the nuclear-powered cruisers proved hard to justify after the Soviet
Union collapsed, so they are all decommissioned and scrapped. I served
in two of those ships, and am a firm believer in nuclear power in the
right application, but a small ship is not a good application for
nuclear power.

--
Bill Collins
For email, change "fake" to "earthlink"

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Bill added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

And let us not forget the NS Savannah (Nuclear).

I toured the Savannah where she is moored at Patriot's Point
near Charleston, SC. Smaller than I had envisioned her.

Small was the NS Savannah's problem. She could not make it
financially. She was built as a small break-bulk cargo ship,
just as large containerships were coming along. Her nuclear
power plant required highly trained and therefore very expensive
people. The Captain (understandably) objected to being paid less
than the Chief Engineer, and so it went. Could not make enough
money in the small break-bulk ship to pay the high costs of her
crew, not to mention the high costs of maintenance of the
nuclear power plant.

Even the U. S Navy found smaller nuclear-powered surface ships
too expensive to operate and maintain, because of the large
number of highly-trained and highly-paid nuclear power plant
operating personnel, and the high cost of overhauling the
nuclear power plants. The Navy has found that nuclear-powered
aircraft carriers make sense, and of course nuclear submarines
do because they don't have to come up for air, but the
nuclear-powered cruisers proved hard to justify after the Soviet
Union collapsed, so they are all decommissioned and scrapped. I
served in two of those ships, and am a firm believer in nuclear
power in the right application, but a small ship is not a good
application for nuclear power.

Good info, thanks, Bill.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"That's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump