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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:22:10 GMT, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

Why does the UAW have an
advantage over everybody else.

Because the Detroit auto industry with their usual short term focus
never bit the bullet, took the big strike and said enough is enough.
The UAW was also fairly clever with their tactics, always going after
the weak sister among the big 3, who ever that happened to be at the
time.

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Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not
to? In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto
industry. If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression,
not recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for
another handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop
repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard
a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware
of your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?


Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

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Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
Come on asshole. There is nothing wrong with EARNING high pay and
being showered with benefits. There is no incentive for union
employees to EARN their keep. They get paid the same *weather* they
do excellent work, mediocre work, or no work. Have you found that
little surprise on the Union web site yet? I wish I could be there
when you discover it.


Weather?? What has the *weather* got to do with it?
Management are the villians here. If you don't think so...go check
out their compensation package for leading their company down the
drain.



Hey...it's FloridaJim. He couldn't get a job as a hodcarrier's
apprentice.

You two asses can't get out of each others butts can you. While you
are spell checking, look up villions and hodcarrier's.

It's your job to educate your dombfoch Canadian buddy; not high five
him every time he catches a spelling mistake. WAFA



What's a villion, FloridaJim? Something you learned about while chipping
paint in the navy?

I know what a hod carrier does, which is why I pointed out you didn't
have the skills to be a hod carrier's apprentice. Additionally, it's
manly work. That would exclude a loser like you.


Ask your buddy. He said it. Thank you for correction your own spelling
error. You like to watch men doing manly things, don't you. Join in and
break a sweat once in a while. It won't kill you.

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Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...

Boater wrote:

This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard a
navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


Or a replacement fallopian tube for one of the transmitters.

Eisboch :-)


Or a bucket of ohms. Ah, the good old days.

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Jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...

Boater wrote:

This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard
a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


Or a replacement fallopian tube for one of the transmitters.

Eisboch :-)

Or a bucket of ohms. Ah, the good old days.


Simple gags for simple minds.

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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...

I am going to keep my F150 thank you. Nice ride and pulls a boat
and has 4x4 for the winter. Try that with a pint sized electric car
up a long hill.


Harry had a F-150 not too long ago and often reported in this NG what
a great truck it was.

That's before he sharpened his political correctness.

Now a US made truck is crap because he owns a Japanese model.


Eisboch


I haven't owned an F150 for nearly 10 years. It was a good truck. The
Toyota truck that replaced it was better. I doubt I ever stated the
US-made truck was "crap." I have heard those sorts of allegations,
however, from SW Tom and I believe from you.

My F-150 is a great truck. Good pulling power but, you need a gasoline
tanker to follow you. I even smashed up the right front back in 04 and
it was mechanically fixed extremely well. Still has the same replacement
tire on the right front.

The biggest problem was scraping off all of the damn union built
stickers on the windows when I first got it home from the dealer.

Remember in clothing ads where they used to sing "Look for the union label"

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Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto
industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not
to? In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto
industry. If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression,
not recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for
another handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop
repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads
aboard a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware
of your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?


Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

I don't owe you an explanation.
I just can't understand you boasting about being a coward. And then
repeatedly reposting it. Get over it.

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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:09:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:12:13 -0500, Jim wrote:


Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.

What union is looking for a handout? I've heard lots of CEOs whining for
help.

If Ford, GM and Chrysler go bankrupt then the unions are all SOL and the
companies are free to negotiate brand new contracts or maybe no
contracts with union labor. If the companies are smart they will move to
right to work states and screw the unions all together.

They are probably smarter than that.
They'll move the jobs to Mexico and China.

--Vic

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