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Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
The part that I recently ordered and received based on the serial number of
my engine was a Mercury Quicksilver "84-826802A12" but when I opened the box the new blue and green output wires to the trim/tilt pump are at least 14" too short. Also, my "hot" red wire uses a "bullet" style connector not a ring connector as shown in photo #1 below. My engine is a: 1996 Mercury 60HP "Bigfoot" SN: OG330757 I hope the photos I uploaded here will help someone help me identify the correct part number for the relay wiring harness: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay1.jpg (new, incorrect harness) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay2.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay3.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay4.jpg (old as installed) Thanks. Chuck |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:24:15 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:
The part that I recently ordered and received based on the serial number of my engine was a Mercury Quicksilver "84-826802A12" but when I opened the box the new blue and green output wires to the trim/tilt pump are at least 14" too short. Maybe you can send someone the old harness, and they can compare with whatever they have. Casady |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
Why are you buying a wiring harness?
"Chuck" wrote in message news:zaiRk.370458$TT4.345549@attbi_s22... The part that I recently ordered and received based on the serial number of my engine was a Mercury Quicksilver "84-826802A12" but when I opened the box the new blue and green output wires to the trim/tilt pump are at least 14" too short. Also, my "hot" red wire uses a "bullet" style connector not a ring connector as shown in photo #1 below. My engine is a: 1996 Mercury 60HP "Bigfoot" SN: OG330757 I hope the photos I uploaded here will help someone help me identify the correct part number for the relay wiring harness: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay1.jpg (new, incorrect harness) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay2.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay3.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay4.jpg (old as installed) Thanks. Chuck |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message ... Why are you buying a wiring harness? "Chuck" wrote in message news:zaiRk.370458$TT4.345549@attbi_s22... The part that I recently ordered and received based on the serial number of my engine was a Mercury Quicksilver "84-826802A12" but when I opened the box the new blue and green output wires to the trim/tilt pump are at least 14" too short. Also, my "hot" red wire uses a "bullet" style connector not a ring connector as shown in photo #1 below. My engine is a: 1996 Mercury 60HP "Bigfoot" SN: OG330757 I hope the photos I uploaded here will help someone help me identify the correct part number for the relay wiring harness: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay1.jpg (new, incorrect harness) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay2.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay3.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay4.jpg (old as installed) Thanks. Chuck Because sal****er corrosion got into the bottom of the relay sockets and the wires have corroded off, especially the one on the left. I uploaded a new photo to illustrate the problem better he www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay5.jpg |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
wrote in message ... On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:24:15 GMT, "Chuck" wrote: The part that I recently ordered and received based on the serial number of my engine was a Mercury Quicksilver "84-826802A12" but when I opened the box the new blue and green output wires to the trim/tilt pump are at least 14" too short. Also, my "hot" red wire uses a "bullet" style connector not a ring connector as shown in photo #1 below. My engine is a: 1996 Mercury 60HP "Bigfoot" SN: OG330757 I hope the photos I uploaded here will help someone help me identify the correct part number for the relay wiring harness: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay1.jpg (new, incorrect harness) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay2.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay3.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay4.jpg (old as installed) Thanks. Chuck I saw your other picture of the socket too. You got the "classic" harness that they used on the 1990 era engine. I bet your S/N is right on the cusp. I would try again with a dealer who can bump your S/N up a year. Very good suggestion. I will run this past them. I might also just try to find the new female spade-lug terminals and re-terminate the wires on the sockets myself. Getting frustrating. Good thing I wont be running again until Spring. |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:38:26 GMT, "Chuck" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:24:15 GMT, "Chuck" wrote: The part that I recently ordered and received based on the serial number of my engine was a Mercury Quicksilver "84-826802A12" but when I opened the box the new blue and green output wires to the trim/tilt pump are at least 14" too short. Also, my "hot" red wire uses a "bullet" style connector not a ring connector as shown in photo #1 below. My engine is a: 1996 Mercury 60HP "Bigfoot" SN: OG330757 I hope the photos I uploaded here will help someone help me identify the correct part number for the relay wiring harness: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay1.jpg (new, incorrect harness) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay2.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay3.jpg (old as installed) www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay4.jpg (old as installed) Thanks. Chuck I saw your other picture of the socket too. You got the "classic" harness that they used on the 1990 era engine. I bet your S/N is right on the cusp. I would try again with a dealer who can bump your S/N up a year. Very good suggestion. I will run this past them. I might also just try to find the new female spade-lug terminals and re-terminate the wires on the sockets myself. Getting frustrating. Good thing I wont be running again until Spring. If you are going to all the expense and trouble to replace the whole wiring harness you should get the right one. Otherwise just fix the one you have by pigtailing on another wire and get your money back on the one that isn't right. I am sure a good parts guy can sort this out. Start by finding a motor catalog page (similar to yours) with the right style trim relays and use the cable from that page. The ones with ring terminals look like old style Ford/AMC starter solenoids. This guy has a pretty good assortment of catalogs you can browse http://www.marinepartsexpress.com/mercury_sch_fs.html You have been very helpful. When I get right down to it, all I really need is ten of these: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay6.jpg Still working with the dealer on this. |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:33:07 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:
You have been very helpful. When I get right down to it, all I really need is ten of these: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay6.jpg Still working with the dealer on this. Have you tried a standard female disconnect from West Marine: http://tinyurl.com/6bkhxt |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:31:40 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:33:07 GMT, "Chuck" wrote: You have been very helpful. When I get right down to it, all I really need is ten of these: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay6.jpg Still working with the dealer on this. Have you tried a standard female disconnect from West Marine: http://tinyurl.com/6bkhxt I am guessing he wants the ones that fit in the socket body for his relays Correct... I needed an uninsulated terminal specifically designed to fit inside a relay socket base. I took the new harness back to the boat dealer who was of no help whatsoever. They also charged me a 10% restocking fee. Anyway, I pulled the old harness out today so I could work with it easily, pull the bad terminal out and clean and replace it. After I had the old one in my hand, I went online to www.Jameco.com and didn't find anything so I went to our auto store "Parts Plus" and found almost what I needed. You can see the product I found as well as the old corroded female terminal I needed to replace here www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay7.jpg It fits but it doesn't really lock into the socket the way it should, but close. Thanks to all who kept me motivated to do this. Chuck (the other one) |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:33:07 GMT, "Chuck" wrote: I am sure a good parts guy can sort this out. Start by finding a motor catalog page (similar to yours) with the right style trim relays and use the cable from that page. The ones with ring terminals look like old style Ford/AMC starter solenoids. This guy has a pretty good assortment of catalogs you can browse http://www.marinepartsexpress.com/mercury_sch_fs.html You have been very helpful. When I get right down to it, all I really need is ten of these: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay6.jpg Still working with the dealer on this. If you can figure out who makes the connector body I bet you can get the spade sockets for it. (I am betting Tyco/AMP) I would start at Digikey.com but you might have to buy a bunch of them unless you have something else "electronic" you need. I think they have a $10 minimum. I will warn you, Digikey sells all sorts of cool electronic parts so if you like this kind of stuff your credit card limit may be more important than the minimum order ;-) The other thing you need is the right "Amp" style crimper unless you squeeze them and solder them. Just mashing them with pliers will not work. These form that "M" fold in the connector. After closer inspection, only the one red "hot" supply wire needed replacement. For that reason, I did not go the route of purchasing a new crimper, although I agree it should have been used. I did reterminate the one bad wire by carefully crimping it, and then by soldering it just to be sure it stays put. Here are the final two photos I will post about this harness repair job. One photo is blurry and the other one is crystal clear... and I don't quite know how I pulled that feat off other than the fact that I took about ten pictures and only uploaded the best ones. see: www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay8.jpg and www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/relay9.jpg |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiringharness?
should, but close.
Thanks to all who kept me motivated to do this. Chuck (the other one)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Chuck, I have those at work, let me know if you need a few more... They are Delphi MetriPak 630 terminals as the package shows, but there are several flavors, you need the right one if it's going to lock into the relay socket. Terry |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Terry S" wrote in message ... should, but close. Thanks to all who kept me motivated to do this. Chuck (the other one)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Chuck, I have those at work, let me know if you need a few more... They are Delphi MetriPak 630 terminals as the package shows, but there are several flavors, you need the right one if it's going to lock into the relay socket. Terry Thanks for the offer Terry. Hey, Based on my uploaded images, Mercury finally found the right part number for the power trim harness for my 1996 3-cyl, 60hp outboard. It looks like Mercury Quicksilver # 813939A2 is the correct part number for a power trim harness on the early models (pre 1996), and # 84-826802A12 is for 1996 and later. I am still confused though because when I look up part number 813939A2, it is listed for 50/55/60 JET 45 or, Mariner 50 (3 cyl) OG290585 thru OG589999. FYI, my SN plate says: OG330757 so it makes me think I don't actually have a 1996 Bigfoot at all. If anyone reading this can use my engine serial number by itself "OG330757" and tell me what Mercury motor that really is, it might ease my parts-ordering woes in the future. As it stands, something doesn't make sense here. I shouldn't need to be sending them photos to identify the correct parts. Chuck |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiringharness?
Chuck wrote:
Hey, Based on my uploaded images, Mercury finally found the right part number for the power trim harness for my 1996 3-cyl, 60hp outboard. It looks like Mercury Quicksilver # 813939A2 is the correct part number for a power trim harness on the early models (pre 1996), and # 84-826802A12 is for 1996 and later. I am still confused though because when I look up part number 813939A2, it is listed for 50/55/60 JET 45 or, Mariner 50 (3 cyl) OG290585 thru OG589999. FYI, my SN plate says: OG330757 so it makes me think I don't actually have a 1996 Bigfoot at all. If anyone reading this can use my engine serial number by itself "OG330757" and tell me what Mercury motor that really is, it might ease my parts-ordering woes in the future. As it stands, something doesn't make sense here. I shouldn't need to be sending them photos to identify the correct parts. Copy and paste from the Mercury web site (for dealers): ENG: 0G330757 1060452SD MERCURY 60 ELPTO/BF Your motor was invoiced to the dealer August 23, 1995 and therefore manufactured prior to that date. That means it could be a 1995 or a 1996 since the model year flip is in July. It was registered as sold April 19, 1996. That being said, Mercury has never held fast to a "year" for their motors, just a serial number range. Many motors have the year stamped on the serial tag, but many more do not. The year is not relevant to the dealer looking up the parts, only the serial number (making it very frustrating for us when someone comes looking for parts without the information we need). Punching in your serial number into my parts program shows only ONE trim harness - part number 813939A2 which leads me to believe whoever looked it up for you originally, erred. I doubt very much the factory would make that error, so I suspect a green parts guy at your dealership did. You were at a bona fide Mercury dealership right? BTW, do you have a Commander 3000 remote control? If so, there's an outstanding recall on it that was never done according to Mercury's records for your motor. Service Bulletin 1996-013 covers it. I assume you're not the original owner (unless your real name is Donald) so it's probably a good idea to have your dealer to a change of ownership so you can be kept abreast of any recalls in the future. Sorry to post something on topic in here - I hope no one beats me up over it. ;-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Dave Brown" wrote in message news:NIOdnZkmDtvI44DUnZ2dnUVZ_qDinZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... Chuck wrote: Hey, Based on my uploaded images, Mercury finally found the right part number for the power trim harness for my 1996 3-cyl, 60hp outboard. It looks like Mercury Quicksilver # 813939A2 is the correct part number for a power trim harness on the early models (pre 1996), and # 84-826802A12 is for 1996 and later. I am still confused though because when I look up part number 813939A2, it is listed for 50/55/60 JET 45 or, Mariner 50 (3 cyl) OG290585 thru OG589999. FYI, my SN plate says: OG330757 so it makes me think I don't actually have a 1996 Bigfoot at all. If anyone reading this can use my engine serial number by itself "OG330757" and tell me what Mercury motor that really is, it might ease my parts-ordering woes in the future. As it stands, something doesn't make sense here. I shouldn't need to be sending them photos to identify the correct parts. Copy and paste from the Mercury web site (for dealers): ENG: 0G330757 1060452SD MERCURY 60 ELPTO/BF Your motor was invoiced to the dealer August 23, 1995 and therefore manufactured prior to that date. That means it could be a 1995 or a 1996 since the model year flip is in July. It was registered as sold April 19, 1996. That being said, Mercury has never held fast to a "year" for their motors, just a serial number range. Many motors have the year stamped on the serial tag, but many more do not. The year is not relevant to the dealer looking up the parts, only the serial number (making it very frustrating for us when someone comes looking for parts without the information we need). Punching in your serial number into my parts program shows only ONE trim harness - part number 813939A2 which leads me to believe whoever looked it up for you originally, erred. I doubt very much the factory would make that error, so I suspect a green parts guy at your dealership did. You were at a bona fide Mercury dealership right? BTW, do you have a Commander 3000 remote control? If so, there's an outstanding recall on it that was never done according to Mercury's records for your motor. Service Bulletin 1996-013 covers it. I assume you're not the original owner (unless your real name is Donald) so it's probably a good idea to have your dealer to a change of ownership so you can be kept abreast of any recalls in the future. Sorry to post something on topic in here - I hope no one beats me up over it. ;-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Awesome. I think I am the third owner. That info is what I wanted to see. Yes, it was an authorized dealer but is was a chic who was looking it up for me. I know that sounds chauvinist. What does the "1060452SD" mean??? That recall info on the Commander 3000 sounds like a dangerous failure. I can just imagine trying to throttle down and get into neutral when it fails. Unfortunately, it looks like the part label has fallen off the bottom. I have uploaded images of my remote to see if it looks like a 3000 series? www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/remote_top.jpg and www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/remote_bottom.jpg Chuck |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiringharness?
Chuck wrote:
Awesome. I think I am the third owner. That info is what I wanted to see. Yes, it was an authorized dealer but is was a chic who was looking it up for me. I know that sounds chauvinist. What does the "1060452SD" mean??? 1060452SD is Merc's model number (for ordering/invoicing purposes) That recall info on the Commander 3000 sounds like a dangerous failure. I can just imagine trying to throttle down and get into neutral when it fails. Unfortunately, it looks like the part label has fallen off the bottom. I have uploaded images of my remote to see if it looks like a 3000 series? www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/remote_top.jpg and www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/remote_bottom.jpg You don't have the 3000, so no worries. -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Dave Brown" wrote in message news:ltCdnYmmKcT6nIPUnZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... Chuck wrote: Awesome. I think I am the third owner. That info is what I wanted to see. Yes, it was an authorized dealer but is was a chic who was looking it up for me. I know that sounds chauvinist. What does the "1060452SD" mean??? 1060452SD is Merc's model number (for ordering/invoicing purposes) That recall info on the Commander 3000 sounds like a dangerous failure. I can just imagine trying to throttle down and get into neutral when it fails. Unfortunately, it looks like the part label has fallen off the bottom. I have uploaded images of my remote to see if it looks like a 3000 series? www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/remote_top.jpg and www.musclecarsounds.com/boats/remote_bottom.jpg You don't have the 3000, so no worries. -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ He also need not worry about sounding "chauvinist". Poultry could care less. Eisboch |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiringharness?
Eisboch wrote:
He also need not worry about sounding "chauvinist". Poultry could care less. OK, that took me a sec, but ya got me to chuckle out loud eventually. ;-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Dave Brown" wrote in message news:2aadnT2a1sNimYPUnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... Eisboch wrote: He also need not worry about sounding "chauvinist". Poultry could care less. OK, that took me a sec, but ya got me to chuckle out loud eventually. ;-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Me too.... actually took me about 3.14 seconds before my grin hatched. This case is closed and I learned a lot of useful info. Thanx! |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Chuck" wrote in message news:STnTk.379531$TT4.56848@attbi_s22... "Dave Brown" wrote in message news:2aadnT2a1sNimYPUnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... Eisboch wrote: He also need not worry about sounding "chauvinist". Poultry could care less. OK, that took me a sec, but ya got me to chuckle out loud eventually. ;-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Me too.... actually took me about 3.14 seconds before my grin hatched. This case is closed and I learned a lot of useful info. Thanx! We should also thank Dave for having the patience to wade through all the political stuff that people like me are polluting the NG with and take the time to help boaters by sharing his expertise. Great resource of info. Ever think of coming on down and running for office Dave? You can almost see Ontario from my house. :-) Eisboch |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Chuck" wrote in message news:STnTk.379531$TT4.56848@attbi_s22... "Dave Brown" wrote in message news:2aadnT2a1sNimYPUnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... Eisboch wrote: He also need not worry about sounding "chauvinist". Poultry could care less. OK, that took me a sec, but ya got me to chuckle out loud eventually. ;-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Me too.... actually took me about 3.14 seconds before my grin hatched. This case is closed and I learned a lot of useful info. Thanx! We should also thank Dave for having the patience to wade through all the political stuff that people like me are polluting the NG with and take the time to help boaters by sharing his expertise. Great resource of info. Ever think of coming on down and running for office Dave? You can almost see Ontario from my house. :-) Eisboch We fill in for MA in the movie business all the time. This latest Tom Selleck film has just wrapped. He seems to like it here and brings lots of yankee dollahs to spread around. http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-cb...,4988305.story |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Don White" wrote in message ... We fill in for MA in the movie business all the time. This latest Tom Selleck film has just wrapped. He seems to like it here and brings lots of yankee dollahs to spread around. http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-cb...,4988305.story Not for much longer ... http://www.plymouthrockstudios.com/ Eisboch |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiringharness?
Eisboch wrote:
We should also thank Dave for having the patience to wade through all the political stuff that people like me are polluting the NG with and take the time to help boaters by sharing his expertise. Great resource of info. I'll take that bow. It was pretty tough getting through here prior to the election, but I think I can sift through now that it's over. Who won? ;-) Now to lure back Bill Grannis to straighten me out when I slip up.... Ever think of coming on down and running for office Dave? You can almost see Ontario from my house. Another chuckle :-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiring harness?
"Dave Brown" wrote in message news:rO6dnXBKSePpgoPUnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca... Eisboch wrote: We should also thank Dave for having the patience to wade through all the political stuff that people like me are polluting the NG with and take the time to help boaters by sharing his expertise. Great resource of info. I'll take that bow. It was pretty tough getting through here prior to the election, but I think I can sift through now that it's over. Who won? ;-) Now to lure back Bill Grannis to straighten me out when I slip up.... Ever think of coming on down and running for office Dave? You can almost see Ontario from my house. Another chuckle :-) -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ Welcome back. I'll have to start checking in more often if guys like you are around. del cecchi |
Help identifying correct part number for trim/tilt relay wiringharness?
Del Cecchi wrote:
Welcome back. I'll have to start checking in more often if guys like you are around. Hi Del, good to see a familiar 'face" again. :-) Now where's Skipper..... -- Regards, Dave Brown Brown's Marina Ltd http://brownsmarina.com/ |
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