"Jim" wrote in message
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Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed and
corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were republicans
and democrats who were involved.


Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet clowns
like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.

Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed and
corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were republicans
and democrats who were involved.


Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet clowns
like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.

The greedy *******s who run the companies write me a check every two
weeks. And, tomorrow is Q3 bonus payouts!

"BAR" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed
and corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were
republicans and democrats who were involved.


Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet
clowns like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.

The greedy *******s who run the companies write me a check every two
weeks. And, tomorrow is Q3 bonus payouts!

And some of the worst performing industries are unionized. Including
government employees. But it is not all the unions fault in the auto
industry. The management caved all the time, when the US controlled 80% of
the market. One of the reason that GM had thousands getting a salary, but
did not have to come to work. One of the reason Toyota, etc can make a
profit, is they have not been here long enough to build up a huge retirees
retirement pay and medical. Plus they negotiated better contracts. The
Toyota contract does not specify all the job classifications. They can send
the lugnut installer to clean floors tomorrow.

Calif Bill wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed
and corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were
republicans and democrats who were involved.

Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet
clowns like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.
The greedy *******s who run the companies write me a check every two
weeks. And, tomorrow is Q3 bonus payouts!

And some of the worst performing industries are unionized. Including
government employees. But it is not all the unions fault in the auto
industry. The management caved all the time, when the US controlled 80% of
the market. One of the reason that GM had thousands getting a salary, but
did not have to come to work. One of the reason Toyota, etc can make a
profit, is they have not been here long enough to build up a huge retirees
retirement pay and medical. Plus they negotiated better contracts. The
Toyota contract does not specify all the job classifications. They can send
the lugnut installer to clean floors tomorrow.

My first real job was working at USDA part while I was still in high
school. I was a GS-1 Computer Assistant and my boss was a GS-13, retired
Army Major, He introduced me to paragraph "E" on the job descriptions.
"E. All other duties as assigned." One of the two best bosses I ever
worked for. He gave me opportunities I never would have had working
anywhere else I just had to remember to put the trash cans out side of
the office area each night before I left.

"BAR" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed
and corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were
republicans and democrats who were involved.


Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet
clowns like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.

The greedy *******s who run the companies write me a check every two
weeks. And, tomorrow is Q3 bonus payouts!

Thank you...you prove my point!

Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed
and corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were
republicans and democrats who were involved.

Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet
clowns like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.
The greedy *******s who run the companies write me a check every two
weeks. And, tomorrow is Q3 bonus payouts!

Thank you...you prove my point!


I think it was a wee bit too subtle for you, Donnie. Read it again. This
time with a little sarcasm.

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed
and corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were
republicans and democrats who were involved.


Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet
clowns like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.

I think it was meant not at one particular union, but in general.

For example, union employees are into my utility bill all over. City
workers are even union. So the price doubles. I need to make more to
afford it even if I am non-union. I also get taxed more so the union
government employee gets more and it inflates the prices to the moon. Then
we need to pay for union priced cars.

Then the bubble breaks. GM goes down right after Christmas. At their burn
rate the creditors must be getting ants in their pants.

But I agree, management is the ultimate culprit here. They should have had
their asses kicked a long time ago.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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snip...
Unions, regulation, taxes, un-motivated, expensive, work forces, greed
and corruption. Killed our industrial complex. Granted, there were
republicans and democrats who were involved.


Unions?? Only a small fraction of the US workforce is unionized, yet
clowns like you still blame them for your situation.
Wake up & blame the greedy *******s who run the companies.

I think it was meant not at one particular union, but in general.

For example, union employees are into my utility bill all over. City
workers are even union. So the price doubles. I need to make more to
afford it even if I am non-union. I also get taxed more so the union
government employee gets more and it inflates the prices to the moon.
Then we need to pay for union priced cars.

Then the bubble breaks. GM goes down right after Christmas. At their
burn rate the creditors must be getting ants in their pants.

But I agree, management is the ultimate culprit here. They should have
had their asses kicked a long time ago.


Instead they and the board of directors just kept rewarding themselves more
& more.
Wonder how much the top people at GM & Ford made in total last year & this
year.