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Ok, boats... I'm retrofitting my 1976 Chrysler 75hp outboard with a
used tilt/trim unit. Hooked it all up, figured out the hydraulic lines, followed the procedure... Filled it with 30 w non-detergent motor oil. I run the unit up and down several times, all seems to be working OK once the cylinders filled with oil and purged the air. Opened the reservoir to check the level, a bunch of foam spilled out. Drained the oil. Refilled. Ran it. Same result. Am I doing something wrong? Is a certain amount of foaming normal? Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks Terry |
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30 weight motor oil? *Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? The service manual specified 30 w non-detergent motor oil. The reservoir only holds about 6 ozs... Yeah, I know there is tilt/trim fluid and various hydraulic fluids... all of which are oils... asked my hydraulic guy at work, he said motor oil is fine. Haven't asked him about the foaming issue yet. I read last night that some of the tilt/trim fluids have an anti-foaming agent added. I'm not opposed to trying one of those. Terry. |
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On Nov 6, 5:57*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:59:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: Ok, boats... I'm retrofitting my 1976 Chrysler 75hp outboard with a used tilt/trim unit. Hooked it all up, figured out the hydraulic lines, followed the procedure... Filled it with 30 w non-detergent motor oil. I run the unit up and down several times, all seems to be working OK once the cylinders filled with oil and purged the air. Opened the reservoir to check the level, a bunch of foam spilled out. Drained the oil. Refilled. Ran it. Same result. Am I doing something wrong? Is a certain amount of foaming normal? Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks 30 weight motor oil? *Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? A lot of older tilt/trim units did in fact use 30W. |
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Most any light to medium weight oil can be used in hydralic systems. The
non-detergent is because of the proximity to water, detergent oils attract water. Foaming means air is still mixed in it. Let it settle overnight and top it off. It might take a little while to get all the air out of the system but once it is out the foaming will stop. "Terry S" wrote in message ... 30 weight motor oil? Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? The service manual specified 30 w non-detergent motor oil. The reservoir only holds about 6 ozs... Yeah, I know there is tilt/trim fluid and various hydraulic fluids... all of which are oils... asked my hydraulic guy at work, he said motor oil is fine. Haven't asked him about the foaming issue yet. I read last night that some of the tilt/trim fluids have an anti-foaming agent added. I'm not opposed to trying one of those. Terry. |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:57:47 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: 30 weight motor oil? Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? The hydraulic unit for my stabilizer system specifies 30wt oil. |
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wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 5:57 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:59:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: Ok, boats... I'm retrofitting my 1976 Chrysler 75hp outboard with a used tilt/trim unit. Hooked it all up, figured out the hydraulic lines, followed the procedure... Filled it with 30 w non-detergent motor oil. I run the unit up and down several times, all seems to be working OK once the cylinders filled with oil and purged the air. Opened the reservoir to check the level, a bunch of foam spilled out. Drained the oil. Refilled. Ran it. Same result. Am I doing something wrong? Is a certain amount of foaming normal? Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks 30 weight motor oil? Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? A lot of older tilt/trim units did in fact use 30W. Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Eisboch |
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On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:02:42 -0500, wrote:
Why motor oil? Usually they use ATF or real tilt/trim fluid. Motor oil is a lubricant, you need hydraulic oil. Usually different stuff My Mercedes Unimog industrial tractor uses SAE 30 engine oil in the tractor hydraulics. The backhoe has a separate pump and reservoir and uses Case hydraulic oil. Casady |
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I've gotten it from walmart before but not consistently. Lowes has it in
the power washer section. "Eisboch" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 5:57 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:59:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: Ok, boats... I'm retrofitting my 1976 Chrysler 75hp outboard with a used tilt/trim unit. Hooked it all up, figured out the hydraulic lines, followed the procedure... Filled it with 30 w non-detergent motor oil. I run the unit up and down several times, all seems to be working OK once the cylinders filled with oil and purged the air. Opened the reservoir to check the level, a bunch of foam spilled out. Drained the oil. Refilled. Ran it. Same result. Am I doing something wrong? Is a certain amount of foaming normal? Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks 30 weight motor oil? Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? A lot of older tilt/trim units did in fact use 30W. Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Eisboch |
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On Nov 6, 8:59*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 5:57 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:59:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: Ok, boats... I'm retrofitting my 1976 Chrysler 75hp outboard with a used tilt/trim unit. Hooked it all up, figured out the hydraulic lines, followed the procedure... Filled it with 30 w non-detergent motor oil. I run the unit up and down several times, all seems to be working OK once the cylinders filled with oil and purged the air. Opened the reservoir to check the level, a bunch of foam spilled out. Drained the oil. Refilled. Ran it. Same result. Am I doing something wrong? Is a certain amount of foaming normal? Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks 30 weight motor oil? Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? A lot of older tilt/trim units did in fact use 30W. Yup. *And try to find the non-detergent variety. *It's often used in pressure washers as well. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've got a Northern Tool close by that sells non-detergent because some of there pressure washer pumps use it. |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:43:32 -0500, "jamesgangnc"
wrote: Most any light to medium weight oil can be used in hydralic systems. The non-detergent is because of the proximity to water, detergent oils attract water. Foaming means air is still mixed in it. Let it settle overnight and top it off. It might take a little while to get all the air out of the system but once it is out the foaming will stop. I'll be danged - I didn't know that. Learn something new everyday. |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? No. It's used in the hydraulic water pump on pressure washers. Eisboch |
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D.Duck wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:48:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: What the hell is a snowblower? 8) A hooker in Fargo Nasty, nasty. 8) |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:00:50 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? No. It's used in the hydraulic water pump on pressure washers. Hmm - never knew that either. Jeeze 'em pete - getting dumber everyday. :) |
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wrote in message ... On Nov 6, 5:57 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:59:52 -0800 (PST), wrote: Ok, boats... I'm retrofitting my 1976 Chrysler 75hp outboard with a used tilt/trim unit. Hooked it all up, figured out the hydraulic lines, followed the procedure... Filled it with 30 w non-detergent motor oil. I run the unit up and down several times, all seems to be working OK once the cylinders filled with oil and purged the air. Opened the reservoir to check the level, a bunch of foam spilled out. Drained the oil. Refilled. Ran it. Same result. Am I doing something wrong? Is a certain amount of foaming normal? Any suggestions? Experiences? Thanks 30 weight motor oil? Um...no? Get a couple of quarts of hydraulic oil. Motor oil? A lot of older tilt/trim units did in fact use 30W. Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Eisboch It's also used in air compressor pumps. Try Sears. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:48:45 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: What the hell is a snowblower? 8) A hooker in Fargo LOL |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. If Disney doesn't have it it doesn't exist. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. If Disney doesn't have it it doesn't exist. Amen. |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. If Disney doesn't have it it doesn't exist. Amen. What DisneyWorld doesn't have right now is customers. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. If Disney doesn't have it it doesn't exist. Amen. What DisneyWorld doesn't have right now is customers. Eisboch You got that right. Saw there earnings and projections yesterday, looks dismal. Of course everything on the financial front looks dismal at the moment. For how long remains to be seen. I think this down turn is definitely different that the 20's and 30's, too much of a *world* economy now. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. If Disney doesn't have it it doesn't exist. Amen. What DisneyWorld doesn't have right now is customers. What I want to know is how raising corporate taxes, capital gains taxes and personal income taxes is going to get more people taking trips to Disney World? Gasoline taxes are going to be reduced dramatically. Airlines are going to suffer. Hotels are going to suffer. Food establishments are going to suffer. Clothing stores and the manufacturers of clothing are going to suffer. All of these put taxes of various forms into federal, state and local governments. At some point the lemon doesn't have any more juice in it even if you squeeze it harder. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:59:03 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Yup. And try to find the non-detergent variety. It's often used in pressure washers as well. As an engine oil? I know my four cycle lawn and garden stuff all seems to run on 30 weight oil including that monster Ariens snowblower I have. I remember going to AutoZone looking for 30W ND and the guy at the counter had never heard of it. Why does that not surprize me. What the hell is a snowblower? 8) It's a machine that makes snow on ski slopes. If you don't know what a ski slope is, Wiki it. ;-) Is there one of those over at Disney World? I drive by there frequently but have never noticed one. If Disney doesn't have it it doesn't exist. Amen. What DisneyWorld doesn't have right now is customers. Eisboch Maybe Obama will hand out passes to Disney as part of his economic stimulus package. |
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:10:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
What DisneyWorld doesn't have right now is customers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo |
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