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Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for
us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... |
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Samsung garbage, not again...
wrote in message ... Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... If you bought it with a credit card the Samsung warranty is probably doubled by the credit card company. |
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On Oct 22, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Why don't you just f**k off troll |
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On Oct 22, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. |
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On Oct 22, 10:52*pm, wrote:
Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... Their rear projection HD models are fantastic. Don't know what a slimfit is. |
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On Oct 23, 8:21*am, wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. He's just an ass.. If he can't find it on Google, he is useless.. Of course if he did a little research he would find that there has been a lot of trouble with Samsung TV's lately. I have never seen such a bad to good comment ratio on Amazon, usually it's just filled with kids ranting about something they bought three days ago...The only good thing about Harry's posts are you know if he said it, it's a lie.. |
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On Oct 23, 8:30*am, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Why don't you just f**k off troll Why don't you stop posting uninformed, irresponsible bull****? Just because *you* have had problems with a product doesn't mean that that everyone else or most people or some large number of people will have problems with other products in that manufacturer's line, or even the same product. You can't even figure out which videocam to buy...or how to use it. You said "...steer clear of Samsung ****..." A better statement would be to "...steer clear of any advice Justwait offers..." Do some research, and then, f88k off troll |
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wrote in message ... On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. ------ Like what? I watch TV on my computer and occasionally hook up my laptop to the TV. I suspect the resolution of a computer one though is much better but both work to watch a video. And one I have is now over 6 years old, 19" TFT Samsung and still works great. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
wrote in message ... On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. ------ Like what? I watch TV on my computer and occasionally hook up my laptop to the TV. I suspect the resolution of a computer one though is much better but both work to watch a video. And one I have is now over 6 years old, 19" TFT Samsung and still works great. One of our HD tvs also works just fine as a computer monitor. |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:49:35 -0600, "Canuck57"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. ------ Like what? I watch TV on my computer and occasionally hook up my laptop to the TV. I suspect the resolution of a computer one though is much better but both work to watch a video. And one I have is now over 6 years old, 19" TFT Samsung and still works great. I've been using a Samsung 955DF for about 5 years and it's been a good monitor. Don't know the tech details, but I've heard there's a big difference between a monitor and TV, especially the resolution. But after justwait's experience there's no way in hell I'd consider a Samsung slimfit 27" TV. I've got a Sharp 27" that's been solid for 10 years. Another same model I bought went kaput after 8 years. I don't take it personally because he hammered Samsung and I'm using a Samsung monitor. I don't own Samsung stocks and I ain't the CEO. When you get burned, you shy away from that manufacturer. I won't touch Sony. Burned twice. Best to do some research first, especially on new models. That's why I drive old cars. Their bonafides are established. --Vic |
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Boater wrote:
wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. You are too quick to call people idiots, asshole. I have a Samsung DVD recorder that had to be sent back 3 times before it came back repaired. Even when it is working the software is real klunky. I have 4 Samsung LCD TVs. One 40", one 27", and 2 20". Three of them get shaken up quite a bit. The software in all the TVs is klunky, but they are all still working. Knock on wood. |
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On Oct 23, 8:19*am, wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Why don't you just f**k off troll He won't, you know he's a narcissistic ass. |
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On Oct 23, 8:31*am, wrote:
On Oct 23, 8:21*am, wrote: On Oct 22, 11:19*pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. He's just an ass.. If he can't find it on Google, he is useless.. Of course if he did a little research he would find that there has been a lot of trouble with Samsung TV's lately. I have never seen such a bad to good comment ratio on Amazon, usually it's just filled with kids ranting about something they bought three days ago...The only good thing about Harry's posts are you know if he said it, it's a lie.. That's interesting, I'm going to look into it. |
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On Oct 23, 9:15*am, jim wrote:
Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. You are too quick to call people idiots, asshole. I have a Samsung DVD recorder that had to be sent back 3 times before it * came back repaired. Even when it is working the software is real klunky. * I have 4 Samsung LCD TVs. One 40", one 27", and 2 20". Three of them get shaken up quite a bit. The software in all the TVs is klunky, but they are all still working. Knock on wood. Here's more proof Harry is the idiot: Samsung SlimFit TXT2782 27 in. Flat Screen CRT TV Absolute garbage by z3rgling , Jul. 7, 2008 Comments: I purchased my first on in April 07. It died in late September 07. It turned off while watching it then would not turn back on again. I contacted samsung customer service and got jerked around by 2 different repair centers they outsource warranty work to. It took samsung until january 08 to replace it. Last night I was watching the replacement set and it died wile watching it in the same manner as the first. This one lasted almost 7 months! Now they claim I am no longer under warranty and I am more or less stuck purchasing a new television. I will NEVER buy another Samsung product again after this. Beware the flat tube! Purchased this TV and returned it after a week. Couldn't stand the picture anymore. Overall picture was okay, but the flat tube apparently has problems. Scrolling tickers across the bottom of the screen appear to be waving in the breeze. I looked at other flat tubes when I returned it, and saw 3 more on display with the same problem. Any horizontal graphic looks curved, bowed, or slanted -- anything but straight and level. Also, very difficult to get accurate colors on this TV. Much better off t... [Read 's Complete Review for Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) at Amazon.com] Buyer Beware Too bad I didn't research this product before shelling out $400 at Best Buy. It died after 5 weeks. I can't return it to Best Buy after thirty days. I went three weeks before Samsung replaced the motherboard. It failed again. We haven't had a television again for 3 weeks. Now Samsung says it needs another motherboard. Samsung won't replace it, or say that it's unfixable. I don't want it replaced with the same television even if that were an option. I've never had a root canal (as one reviewer wr... [Read 's Complete Review for Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) at Amazon.com] Lasted 7 days! Picture was great for 6 days! On the 7th day, it rested. Now it just displays a white zig-zag line on a grey background. Glad it blew up during the return period. After reading other reviews today, I assume mine must have slipped past quality control. Most units last about a month before major problems and the buyer is stuck with warranty repairs. I guess Samsung will have to eat this one! [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] Dead TV The new Samsung died today ... we bought it new about 5 weeks ago. When I went on line and did a review search for this particular TV, I found that other people also had this problem. We are going to return this one and keep trying until we get one that works for more than a month. Why? Because my husband likes the picture, size and price. We bought our last TV in 1989 and it lasted until January 2008. [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] Volume problem and now, no power at all. The volume of this model does not seem to go any further than about 32 and any higher setting doesn't give you any more sound. Have had this TV for almost 11 months and the power has now gone. Having it repaired under warranty but not buying another one. [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] And it goes on and on! |
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On Oct 23, 10:16*am, wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:15*am, jim wrote: Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. You are too quick to call people idiots, asshole. I have a Samsung DVD recorder that had to be sent back 3 times before it * came back repaired. Even when it is working the software is real klunky. * I have 4 Samsung LCD TVs. One 40", one 27", and 2 20". Three of them get shaken up quite a bit. The software in all the TVs is klunky, but they are all still working. Knock on wood. Here's more proof Harry is the idiot: Samsung SlimFit TXT2782 27 in. Flat Screen CRT TV *Absolute garbage by z3rgling , Jul. 7, 2008 Comments: I purchased my first on in April 07. It died in late September 07. It turned off while watching it then would not turn back on again. I contacted samsung customer service and got jerked around by 2 different repair centers they outsource warranty work to. It took samsung until january 08 to replace it. Last night I was watching the replacement set and it died wile watching it in the same manner as the first. This one lasted almost 7 months! Now they claim I am no longer under warranty and I am more or less stuck purchasing a new television. I will NEVER buy another Samsung product again after this. Beware the flat tube! *Purchased this TV and returned it after a week. Couldn't stand the picture anymore. Overall picture was okay, but the flat tube apparently has problems. Scrolling tickers across the bottom of the screen appear to be waving in the breeze. I looked at other flat tubes when I returned it, and saw 3 more on display with the same problem. Any horizontal graphic looks curved, bowed, or slanted -- anything but straight and level. Also, very difficult to get accurate colors on this TV. Much better off t... [Read 's Complete Review for Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) at Amazon.com] Buyer Beware *Too bad I didn't research this product before shelling out $400 at Best Buy. It died after 5 weeks. I can't return it to Best Buy after thirty days. I went three weeks before Samsung replaced the motherboard. It failed again. We haven't had a television again for 3 weeks. Now Samsung says it needs another motherboard. Samsung won't replace it, or say that it's unfixable. I don't want it replaced with the same television even if that were an option. I've never had a root canal (as one reviewer wr... [Read 's Complete Review for Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) at Amazon.com] Lasted 7 days! *Picture was great for 6 days! On the 7th day, it rested. Now it just displays a white zig-zag line on a grey background. Glad it blew up during the return period. After reading other reviews today, I assume mine must have slipped past quality control. Most units last about a month before major problems and the buyer is stuck with warranty repairs. I guess Samsung will have to eat this one! [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] Dead TV *The new Samsung died today ... we bought it new about 5 weeks ago. When I went on line and did a review search for this particular TV, I found that other people also had this problem. We are going to return this one and keep trying until we get one that works for more than a month. Why? Because my husband likes the picture, size and price. We bought our last TV in 1989 and it lasted until January 2008. [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] Volume problem and now, no power at all. *The volume of this model does not seem to go any further than about 32 and any higher setting doesn't give you any more sound. Have had this TV for almost 11 months and the power has now gone. Having it repaired under warranty but not buying another one. [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] And it goes on and on!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OOpps.. Looks like harry the liar is missing in action again.. Guess he didn't do his research before spewing his bull****... |
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On Oct 23, 1:40*pm, wrote:
On Oct 23, 10:16*am, wrote: On Oct 23, 9:15*am, jim wrote: Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. You are too quick to call people idiots, asshole. I have a Samsung DVD recorder that had to be sent back 3 times before it * came back repaired. Even when it is working the software is real klunky. * I have 4 Samsung LCD TVs. One 40", one 27", and 2 20". Three of them get shaken up quite a bit. The software in all the TVs is klunky, but they are all still working. Knock on wood. Here's more proof Harry is the idiot: Samsung SlimFit TXT2782 27 in. Flat Screen CRT TV *Absolute garbage by z3rgling , Jul. 7, 2008 Comments: I purchased my first on in April 07. It died in late September 07. It turned off while watching it then would not turn back on again. I contacted samsung customer service and got jerked around by 2 different repair centers they outsource warranty work to. It took samsung until january 08 to replace it. Last night I was watching the replacement set and it died wile watching it in the same manner as the first. This one lasted almost 7 months! Now they claim I am no longer under warranty and I am more or less stuck purchasing a new television. I will NEVER buy another Samsung product again after this. Beware the flat tube! *Purchased this TV and returned it after a week. Couldn't stand the picture anymore. Overall picture was okay, but the flat tube apparently has problems. Scrolling tickers across the bottom of the screen appear to be waving in the breeze. I looked at other flat tubes when I returned it, and saw 3 more on display with the same problem. Any horizontal graphic looks curved, bowed, or slanted -- anything but straight and level. Also, very difficult to get accurate colors on this TV. Much better off t... [Read 's Complete Review for Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) at Amazon.com] Buyer Beware *Too bad I didn't research this product before shelling out $400 at Best Buy. It died after 5 weeks. I can't return it to Best Buy after thirty days. I went three weeks before Samsung replaced the motherboard. It failed again. We haven't had a television again for 3 weeks. Now Samsung says it needs another motherboard. Samsung won't replace it, or say that it's unfixable. I don't want it replaced with the same television even if that were an option. I've never had a root canal (as one reviewer wr... [Read 's Complete Review for Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) at Amazon.com] Lasted 7 days! *Picture was great for 6 days! On the 7th day, it rested. Now it just displays a white zig-zag line on a grey background. Glad it blew up during the return period. After reading other reviews today, I assume mine must have slipped past quality control. Most units last about a month before major problems and the buyer is stuck with warranty repairs. I guess Samsung will have to eat this one! [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] Dead TV *The new Samsung died today ... we bought it new about 5 weeks ago. When I went on line and did a review search for this particular TV, I found that other people also had this problem. We are going to return this one and keep trying until we get one that works for more than a month. Why? Because my husband likes the picture, size and price. We bought our last TV in 1989 and it lasted until January 2008. [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] Volume problem and now, no power at all. *The volume of this model does not seem to go any further than about 32 and any higher setting doesn't give you any more sound. Have had this TV for almost 11 months and the power has now gone. Having it repaired under warranty but not buying another one. [Samsung 27" SlimFit Tube TV (TXT2782) review can be read at Amazon.com] And it goes on and on!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OOpps.. Looks like harry the liar is missing in action again.. Guess he didn't do his research before spewing his bull****...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, the idiot's first mistake was comparing a freakin' computer monitor to a television set!!! |
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wrote in message ... On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. ====================================== You're comparing CRT and LCD display technology in this example. It's quite a bit easier to design a reliable LCD display than one using a CRT. Lower voltages and lower power dissipation in the LCD units. If there is a large number reliability problems with OPs model TV, I'll take a SWAG and say it's under-specified electrolytic capacitors. Or, bad capacitors as received from the vendor. A few years ago there was industry wide problem in the Far East with capacitors that were not up to specs. |
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On Oct 23, 8:54*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. ====================================== You're comparing CRT and LCD display technology in this example. *It's quite a bit easier to design a reliable LCD display than one using a CRT. *Lower voltages and lower power dissipation in the LCD units. If there is a large number reliability problems with OPs model TV, I'll take a SWAG and say it's under-specified electrolytic capacitors. *Or, bad capacitors as received from the vendor. *A few years ago there was industry wide problem in the Far East with capacitors that were not up to specs. Apparently they are used to this problem. We called Samsung tonight and they said they would have a guy out within two days to "fix the TV here on site" as they "already know what the problem is". When dad's went out, they changed the main board, but it could be the Capacitor problem you noted as the unit will come on for about 10 seconds then turn off and the power input button goes out. After being unplugged for several minutes and repluged, the power input light comes back on, but once the unit is turned on, it goes out after a few seconds again... Rowdy Mouse Racing, trolls suck... |
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On Oct 23, 6:42*pm, BAR wrote:
wrote: On Oct 22, 11:19 pm, Boater wrote: wrote: Well, last December we bought two Samsung slimfit 27" TV's. One for us, one for my dad. His died in the second week of February, ours went last night.. His was under warrantee but still took almost 6 weeks to be fixed, I am not sure if we had the extended warrantee on ours. Either way, steer clear of Samsung **** if at all possible, just a warning... More idiocy. I've had a Samsung 214T monitor for my Windoze Desktop for at least three years, and it has never hiccuped. Pssst, there's a big difference between a computer monitor and a HD television. Ah, no there isn't. My Samsung LCD 4096 HDTV allows me to plug a computer into it, there is a 15 ping monitor port on the back of the TV. It is great for playing games. There isn't much difference between a computer monitor and a TV these days except for the tuner. Doesn't matter. A monitor is a monitor, it does not have the ability to be a receiver. A receiver is much more complex and could well be where the problem lies. |
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