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Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck.
My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
I've had 4wd vehicles for the last 20 years. Not once have I had to have the
transfer cases serviced. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. 4wd sure makes pulling a heavy boat up a slippery ramp, a piece of cake. --Mike wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
Here in Michigan I wouldn't be without 4WD, but it wouldn't be necessary in
Florida. Like Mike said, 4WD makes it nice to pull on a slippery ramp. 4WD does have more moving parts so the wear factor does increase, not to mention the fuel consumption! "Mike" wrote in message ... I've had 4wd vehicles for the last 20 years. Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. 4wd sure makes pulling a heavy boat up a slippery ramp, a piece of cake. --Mike wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? Living in the northeast, I buy trucks with 4wd. I think in the past 8 years, I've used 4wd about 4 or 5 times. Once to pull my 4wd tractor out of a hole it had dug itself into, another time to haul a tree stump out of the ground and a couple of other times when stuck in a snowbank. Oh .... 4wd low range is great for backing heavy trailers .... like a fifth wheel .... into a tight spot. Before that, I used it more often because I towed, launched and retrieved a fairly heavy boat. The truck would probably pull the boat and trailer out of the water fine in 2wd, but I always did it in 4wd to prevent putting on a show for the launch ramp audiences. I've never had any repair problems with 4wd systems, but my trucks aren't usually very old when I replace them. One thing about 4wd. The very few times you need it, you can't go without it. I noticed though that the three winters we spent in Florida, you rarely saw a 4wd truck. Eisboch |
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Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. Theres a difference between never having them serviced, and never HAVING to have them serviced. They need fluid changes as well, even if you arent using them. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
Here in the SF Bay Area, it's (4wd) not needed either. However we go to
Tahoe a few times a year to ski, and it's a LOT easier to flip a switch to go to 4WD, than get out and put on chains when restrictions are in place. Funny thing is that when I lived in MA and CT, I never had 4wd... couldn't afford it. But, where it snows regularly, they don't ever seem to require 4wd or chains anyway. My theory is that here in CA, folks aren't used to driving in snow, so they make us chain up or use 4wd for everyone's safety. I still follow the rule I learned when I learned to drive in CT... if the roads are foul, don't drive unless you absolutely have to. Sometimes though, in the Sierras, unforecasted weather can move in quick, and catch you off guard. Additionally, being in construction, job sites can be a mucky mess when it rains, and 4wd get's me out in a hurry. --Mike "Johnny" Johnny @any.com wrote in message . .. Here in Michigan I wouldn't be without 4WD, but it wouldn't be necessary in Florida. Like Mike said, 4WD makes it nice to pull on a slippery ramp. 4WD does have more moving parts so the wear factor does increase, not to mention the fuel consumption! "Mike" wrote in message ... I've had 4wd vehicles for the last 20 years. Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. 4wd sure makes pulling a heavy boat up a slippery ramp, a piece of cake. --Mike wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it
says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. That's bull. It costs no more to "tune up" a 4wd vehicle than a 2wd vehicle. But I do agree with the "marine" part of your statement. Yup, gotta change the fluid in the xfer case. Depending on use, that costs an additional $20 to $80 per year. Less if you do it yourself. I just let Jiffy Lube do it.You must not own a 4wd vehicle, as that's one of the common arguments I hear against getting one (service costs more). ;-) --Mike wrote in message ... Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. Theres a difference between never having them serviced, and never HAVING to have them serviced. They need fluid changes as well, even if you arent using them. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
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Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Oct 22, 10:46 pm, "Mike" wrote:
You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. That's bull. It costs no more to "tune up" a 4wd vehicle than a 2wd vehicle. But I do agree with the "marine" part of your statement. Yup, gotta change the fluid in the xfer case. Depending on use, that costs an additional $20 to $80 per year. Less if you do it yourself. I just let Jiffy Lube do it.You must not own a 4wd vehicle, as that's one of the common arguments I hear against getting one (service costs more). ;-) --Mike wrote in message ... Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. Theres a difference between never having them serviced, and never HAVING to have them serviced. They need fluid changes as well, even if you arent using them. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. Here is why 4wd costs more to service, simply more parts to service. My Nissan has required its front boots over the joints to be replaced requiring me to replace the entire front driveaxle assembly because grit got into it although it was rarely used. Left front auto-hub failed after 10 yrs and had to be replaced and would have been very expensive so I replaced it with manual hubs. Replacing a clutch on a 4wd is much more expensive than 2wd and I suspect auto tranny probs on a 4wd would be horrendous. Alignment on a 4wd often is more than 2wd and hardly anyone could do it right on my Nissan because the toe in in the manual was wrong. Alternatives to 4wd: Carry a come along all the time and really know how to use it. Chains, in winter, many roads in WY require you have chains. When I lived there, I went all over including up steep icy roads with 2wd and chains. Carry 6 bags of sand in the bed for weight over the drive wheels. I normally launch from good ramps so I have not had any issues with getting stuck and a come-along would get me out of almost anything. "Tune-up", whats that mean? In 313,000 miles, I never really had a tune up and I always went an absurdly long time between oil changes. Engine seized at 208,000 miles due to a corroded freeze plug leakign when my wife was driving it. For that matter, I can honestly say I never washed my truck EVER. My wife washed it a few times to try to shame me into it (didnt work), thats what rain is for. My family wants the 4wd for WY but we will only spend one month there next summer and then MAYBE a year there before reverting to a month a year. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? We can have a fair amount of wet heavy snow, but I've never owned a 4WD vehicle in my life (probably will change March '09) Heck...living in the city, I haven't bought snow tires in almost 25 years. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
"Mike" wrote in message ... Here in the SF Bay Area, it's (4wd) not needed either. However we go to Tahoe a few times a year to ski, and it's a LOT easier to flip a switch to go to 4WD, than get out and put on chains when restrictions are in place. Funny thing is that when I lived in MA and CT, I never had 4wd... couldn't afford it. But, where it snows regularly, they don't ever seem to require 4wd or chains anyway. My theory is that here in CA, folks aren't used to driving in snow, so they make us chain up or use 4wd for everyone's safety. I still follow the rule I learned when I learned to drive in CT... if the roads are foul, don't drive unless you absolutely have to. Sometimes though, in the Sierras, unforecasted weather can move in quick, and catch you off guard. Additionally, being in construction, job sites can be a mucky mess when it rains, and 4wd get's me out in a hurry. --Mike "Johnny" Johnny @any.com wrote in message . .. Here in Michigan I wouldn't be without 4WD, but it wouldn't be necessary in Florida. Like Mike said, 4WD makes it nice to pull on a slippery ramp. 4WD does have more moving parts so the wear factor does increase, not to mention the fuel consumption! "Mike" wrote in message ... I've had 4wd vehicles for the last 20 years. Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. 4wd sure makes pulling a heavy boat up a slippery ramp, a piece of cake. --Mike wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. Thoughts? 4WD is required in the bay area on certain ramps. Santa Cruz is the prime example. Most expensive ramp in the area, except for Discovery Bay, and they can not use any of the money to buy a pressure washer to remove the alge at low tide. I also ski, but launch my boat off unimproved ramps in some rivers and remote lakes. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Oct 22, 8:54*pm, "Mike" wrote:
I've had 4wd vehicles for the last 20 years. Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. 4wd sure makes pulling a heavy boat up a slippery ramp, a piece of cake. --Mike wrote in message ... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. *I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. *When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. *We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. *My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. *Thoughts?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Besides, if you like manual trannys low range is nice on a steep ramp with a heavy boat. |
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Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Oct 22, 10:46*pm, "Mike" wrote:
You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. * If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. That's bull. It costs no more to "tune up" a 4wd vehicle than a 2wd vehicle. But I do agree with the "marine" part of your statement. Yup, gotta change the fluid in the xfer case. Depending on use, that costs an additional $20 to $80 per year. Less if you do it yourself. I just let Jiffy Lube do it.You must not own a 4wd vehicle, as that's one of the common arguments I hear against getting one (service costs more). ;-) --Mike wrote in message ... Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. Theres a difference between never having them serviced, and never HAVING to have them serviced. They need fluid changes as well, even if you arent using them. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. * If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's bull. It costs no more to "tune up" a 4wd vehicle than a 2wd vehicle. I dont believe you mentioned ANYTHING about " tuning up " anything. I'm talking driveline, transmission, transfer case. Yes I HAVE owned a 4WD. But it WASNT a cheesy Toyota Tonka Toy. It was a real 4WD. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
wrote in message ... On Oct 22, 10:46 pm, "Mike" wrote: You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more. That's bull. It costs no more to "tune up" a 4wd vehicle than a 2wd vehicle. But I do agree with the "marine" part of your statement. Yup, gotta change the fluid in the xfer case. Depending on use, that costs an additional $20 to $80 per year. Less if you do it yourself. I just let Jiffy Lube do it.You must not own a 4wd vehicle, as that's one of the common arguments I hear against getting one (service costs more). ;-) --Mike wrote in message ... Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. Theres a difference between never having them serviced, and never HAVING to have them serviced. They need fluid changes as well, even if you arent using them. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. You are waaaaay wrong here. What a mis-informed statement. If it says 4WD..OR Marine...it always costs more.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That's bull. It costs no more to "tune up" a 4wd vehicle than a 2wd vehicle. I dont believe you mentioned ANYTHING about " tuning up " anything. I'm talking driveline, transmission, transfer case. Yes I HAVE owned a 4WD. But it WASNT a cheesy Toyota Tonka Toy. It was a real 4WD. Maybe you should get a 3/4 ton Dodge 4x4 then. I've not had any of the problems you mention in any of mine. So, I stand by my statement. --Mike |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Oct 23, 7:24*am, wrote:
On Oct 22, 8:54*pm, "Mike" wrote: I've had 4wd vehicles for the last 20 years. Not once have I had to have the transfer cases serviced. So no, they don't cost any more for repairs. 4wd sure makes pulling a heavy boat up a slippery ramp, a piece of cake. --Mike wrote in message .... Question for me now is whether or not to get 4wd on my new(er) truck. My old Nissan is 4wd and my old Dodge is not. *I have never needed 4wd here in FL and when I lived in AL I used it only a few times, a couple times when it snowed and several times for caving. *When we go to WY, we may use it both winter and summer although that is a very small fraction of our time. *We also could do without it in WY even in winter by being careful. *My experience with 4wd is that it makes repairs a lot more expensive. *Thoughts?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Besides, if you like manual trannys low range is nice on a steep ramp with a heavy boat.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Agreed! But one should always make sure the parking brake is in good shape and working throttle releasing parking brake and operating the clutch can take a bit of getting used to. I've sen people at our local ramp get their PU stuck onthe ramp. all because they let the parking brake go to heck and it wouldn't release . And this always seems to happen on the morning of a three day weekend with anxious people lined up to launch. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Eisboch |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message om... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers? I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Oct 23, 8:06*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message om... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. * It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. *I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers? I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Pffftttt.. remind me never too.... |
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Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:jt2dnaHrs9a5Xp3UnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@earthlink. com... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers? I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year. You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked at them as I walked by the truck. They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two positions, "Locked" and "Auto". I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my head until later, sitting here at the desk. Weird. It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me. Be right back. Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue. Eisboch |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Oct 23, 9:18 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in messagenews:0a42g4th9fhq323akftp9jn6hc83lhk8q1@4ax .com... On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:jt2dnaHrs9a5Xp3UnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@earthlink. com... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers? I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year. You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked at them as I walked by the truck. They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two positions, "Locked" and "Auto". I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my head until later, sitting here at the desk. Weird. It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me. Be right back. Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue. Eisboch I was out driving in the woods with a friend of mine in his 4WD truck with his wife along too looking for caves. We came to a very wide and long area of mud and h turns to his wife "Marianne, will you get out and lock in the hubs before we go through that". She gets out and starts locking them and he says o me in a loud voice "You didnt know i had automatic hubs did you". They didnt stay married long. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:18:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:jt2dnaHrs9a5Xp3UnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@earthlink .com... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers? I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year. You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked at them as I walked by the truck. They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two positions, "Locked" and "Auto". I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my head until later, sitting here at the desk. Weird. It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me. Be right back. Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue. The only thing I can think of it that it will prevent the electronic shift from disengaging. I have had that problem on my F-150 when some weirdo switch sensor or something went screwy when I put it into four wheel low. I had to back up about a mile to get the hubs and converter to unlock. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:18:38 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message news:jt2dnaHrs9a5Xp3UnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@earthlin k.com... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. Sure they are manual hubs and not wheel covers? I was fooled by that when I was looking at a new Ford last year. You know what? I have no idea. I just happened to glance down and looked at them as I walked by the truck. They have a bar that appears to be able to be turned to one of two positions, "Locked" and "Auto". I was thinking about something else at the moment, so nothing went off in my head until later, sitting here at the desk. Weird. It's too cold and dark to investigate now. I'll check it out tomorrow if I remember ..... ah, hell, this is going to bug me. Be right back. Back. Yup, they are locking hubs. The truck has the Electronic Shift On the Fly (ESOF) option, but the hubs can also be manually locked to override the automatic control. Why, I haven't a clue. The only thing I can think of it that it will prevent the electronic shift from disengaging. I have had that problem on my F-150 when some weirdo switch sensor or something went screwy when I put it into four wheel low. I had to back up about a mile to get the hubs and converter to unlock. I rented a Olds Bravado one time in Rochester, MN during the winter. Coming back from dinner outside town the rain froze to a nice icy surface. You could not lock the car into 4x4, was all automatic unlike my S10 Blazer. Was scary as the car kept jumping to the side when a wheel would start to slip and then lock in to 4x4. Being able to lock the hubs may prevent that. My Chevy truck only is automatic on the locking of the hubs, but they lock when in 4x4 so know no other reason for manual locks. But after having to manually lock my old jeep or my dad's 1959 Ford truck I love auto locking. A lot cleaner and dryer. |
Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
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Tow Vehicle, 4wd or not
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:25:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message om... With most of the new 4x4's and the auto disconnect to the front drive line, other than the extra weight, the fuel mileage difference is negligible. I just noticed something on my new truck. It has real, old fashioned locking hubs on the front, the kind you get out and manually turn. I never noticed them before. I have to read the owner's manual one of these days, because I have the electronic switch in the cab to select 2wd, 4wd high and 4wd low. I don't know what the manual locking hubs are all about. When in 2wd, the front hubs freewheel, and the front axles and the rest of it don't turn, eliminating the drag thereof. Casady |
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