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BAR[_3_] October 13th 08 04:42 PM

religion and politics
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye

Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll
keep my government out of your religion.



Now there's an idea...separation of religion and state. I wonder if
it will catch on...


Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The USA was based
upon a belief in a God.



Freedom *from * religion in the government and laws of the land. As
for the most significant founding fathers, get back to us when you
understand the difference between deism and fideism. The founding
fathers were mostly deists.


Show me in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights where you are
guaranteed freedom from religion.

Nice try with the deist, fidelism tangent.



Idiot.


You can't support your argument? Start with the name calling.


Boater October 13th 08 04:43 PM

religion and politics
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye

Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll
keep my government out of your religion.



Now there's an idea...separation of religion and state. I wonder if
it will catch on...


Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The USA was based
upon a belief in a God.



Freedom *from * religion in the government and laws of the land. As
for the most significant founding fathers, get back to us when you
understand the difference between deism and fideism. The founding
fathers were mostly deists.


Show me in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights where you are
guaranteed freedom from religion.

Nice try with the deist, fidelism tangent.



Idiot.

Boater October 13th 08 04:46 PM

religion and politics
 
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye

Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll
keep my government out of your religion.



Now there's an idea...separation of religion and state. I wonder
if it will catch on...


Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The USA was based
upon a belief in a God.



Freedom *from * religion in the government and laws of the land. As
for the most significant founding fathers, get back to us when you
understand the difference between deism and fideism. The founding
fathers were mostly deists.

Show me in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights where you are
guaranteed freedom from religion.

Nice try with the deist, fidelism tangent.



Idiot.


You can't support your argument? Start with the name calling.



It's fideism, idiot, not fidelism.

Why would I want to "support" my arguments with you? I don't care what
you believe or how you vote.

BAR[_3_] October 13th 08 05:44 PM

religion and politics
 
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye

Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and
I'll keep my government out of your religion.



Now there's an idea...separation of religion and state. I wonder
if it will catch on...


Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The USA was based
upon a belief in a God.



Freedom *from * religion in the government and laws of the land. As
for the most significant founding fathers, get back to us when you
understand the difference between deism and fideism. The founding
fathers were mostly deists.

Show me in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights where you are
guaranteed freedom from religion.

Nice try with the deist, fidelism tangent.


Idiot.


You can't support your argument? Start with the name calling.



It's fideism, idiot, not fidelism.

Why would I want to "support" my arguments with you? I don't care what
you believe or how you vote.


Sure you do. If you didn't care you wouldn't bother responding to any of
my posts. You have a disease.

Jim October 13th 08 09:21 PM

religion and politics
 
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye


Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll keep my
government out of your religion.


It's not my religion. It's not your government. No deal.

[email protected] October 13th 08 09:27 PM

religion and politics
 
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:09:54 -0400, BAR wrote:

Boater wrote:
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye

Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll keep
my government out of your religion.



Now there's an idea...separation of religion and state. I wonder if it
will catch on...


Freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The USA was based upon a
belief in a God.


In EVERY instance in the history of the world, whenever religion and
government have mingled, the government ultimately ended up "owning"
the religion, and governing it as well.

Be careful what you ask for.


MMC October 14th 08 03:08 PM

religion and politics
 

"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye


Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll keep my
government out of your religion.

It's not my religion. It's not your government. No deal.

Well Jim, as an American I do lay claim to the government. So either you're
not from here or don't understand the concept. The government is supposed to
work for us, we put the political leaders in office and we pay for it, so
yes, it does belong to us. Our politicians represent us- it's called
Democracy.
Our biggest problem is we don't pay attention to what the government does in
our name and FAR too many of us are too willing to follow along blindly and
allow corrupt trash to remain in office for decades because it's what our
Party tells us is best.
Blind loyalty to your Party is a lot like religion- follow along blindly and
don't ask questions, cause the only proof you're likely to find, if you're
super lucky, may be a likeness of Jesus in your grilled cheese sandwich.



John H[_2_] October 14th 08 04:33 PM

religion and politics
 
..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Jim October 14th 08 04:51 PM

religion and politics
 
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye
Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll keep my
government out of your religion.

It's not my religion. It's not your government. No deal.

Well Jim, as an American I do lay claim to the government. So either you're
not from here or don't understand the concept. The government is supposed to
work for us, we put the political leaders in office and we pay for it, so
yes, it does belong to us. Our politicians represent us- it's called
Democracy.
Our biggest problem is we don't pay attention to what the government does in
our name and FAR too many of us are too willing to follow along blindly and
allow corrupt trash to remain in office for decades because it's what our
Party tells us is best.
Blind loyalty to your Party is a lot like religion- follow along blindly and
don't ask questions, cause the only proof you're likely to find, if you're
super lucky, may be a likeness of Jesus in your grilled cheese sandwich.


If I were you I would be ashamed to claim government yours, in its
current condition. Be wary of his agenda. Little is known about the man
and what we do know should make middle class America cringe at the
thought of that guy as our president. Can we count on your vote for John
McCain? He wants to try to fix The U.S. Government. Barry wants to grow
the government and spread political corruption and greed. Also 95% of
congress needs to be fired. I'll allow for 5% of them being honest and
representing the people that elected them. Eliminate pork or earmarks or
what ever you want to call it. There should be laws against the practice.

Thank you for your time and
God bless America

HK October 14th 08 05:07 PM

religion and politics
 
Jim wrote:
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
mmc wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
.com...
Well, not exactly. Barry fans need to see the truth.

http://tinyurl.com/466aye
Here's the deal, keep your religion out of my government and I'll
keep my government out of your religion.
It's not my religion. It's not your government. No deal.

Well Jim, as an American I do lay claim to the government. So either
you're not from here or don't understand the concept. The government
is supposed to work for us, we put the political leaders in office and
we pay for it, so yes, it does belong to us. Our politicians represent
us- it's called Democracy.
Our biggest problem is we don't pay attention to what the government
does in our name and FAR too many of us are too willing to follow
along blindly and allow corrupt trash to remain in office for decades
because it's what our Party tells us is best.
Blind loyalty to your Party is a lot like religion- follow along
blindly and don't ask questions, cause the only proof you're likely to
find, if you're super lucky, may be a likeness of Jesus in your
grilled cheese sandwich.

If I were you I would be ashamed to claim government yours, in its
current condition. Be wary of his agenda. Little is known about the man
and what we do know should make middle class America cringe at the
thought of that guy as our president. Can we count on your vote for John
McCain? He wants to try to fix The U.S. Government. Barry wants to grow
the government and spread political corruption and greed. Also 95% of
congress needs to be fired. I'll allow for 5% of them being honest and
representing the people that elected them. Eliminate pork or earmarks or
what ever you want to call it. There should be laws against the practice.

Thank you for your time and
God bless America


Shouldn't you be at the McPalin rally, shouting out that Obama is an
Arab, along with the rest of the simple-minded base?


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