"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:47:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Raphael" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Checked the rec.boats newsgroup this morning. 37 new posts

10 are from "regulars" here and are mostly boating related.
27 of them are political cross postings, thanks to Harry.

Eisboch


If we were to leave that sick puppy alone, he might just get bored and
leave.


That would be nice, but given his history over the past 14 years, I doubt
it
will happen soon.
He has an insatiable need to be seen, heard and to spread his political
gospel.

Dragging the other NGs in here by crossposting is just another example of
his hypocrisy and his ill will to those who don't share his POV.

Ironically, he represents everything that is bad in his political
affiliation.

Eisboch


Not to be an asshole or anything, but I must point out that you let him
suck you into his **** on a daily basis.

Filter him and his supporters. Easy.



You're right. Back into the bin.
It just would be nice to see regular faces in here, discussing subjects of
common interest and not the wacko's dragged in by you know who, just to
disrupt the NG.

For the record, I enjoy reading and conversing with almost all the people
here, on boating subjects or not. Even Harry, when he is not on one of his
obnoxious political crusades. IMO, every post or subject need not be
directly boating related, as long as the subjects are of general interest to
most. If they are not of general interest, the threads or initial post soon
die.

Old school plank owners of Usenet correctly point out the practice or custom
of 100% on-topic posting. The practice originated back in the days of 1200
baud (or less), dial-up, Internet connections where downloading a bunch of
posts would take 10 minutes or more. In those days it was important to
stay completely on topic because otherwise you wasted people's time and
affected telephone bills as they downloaded off topic posts.

Those days are gone. It takes a second now to download the subject headers
of a 100 or more posts. IMO, (and it's only an opinion) the speed and
bandwidth today allows for a relaxation of old Usenet customs. Discussing
varied subjects, of common interest, is not a big deal, in my opinion.
Personal insults, flame wars, threats, or using the NG on a regular basis to
further one's own agenda should still be off-limits, I think, but it's
probably too much to realistically expect.

Eisboch

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:41:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Personal insults, flame wars, threats, or using the NG on a regular basis to
further one's own agenda should still be off-limits, I think, but it's
probably too much to realistically expect.

Does this mean that I can't call you and Jim Squids anymore?

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:59:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

To bring attention to practices that are disruptive to a NG is very much
on-topic.

That's true but you and I both know that the individual in question
could give a hoot what other people think. Since I have no further
interest in his abysmal existence, I just pop him into the kill file
under whatever nom du jour he chooses to use.

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:47:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Raphael" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Checked the rec.boats newsgroup this morning. 37 new posts

10 are from "regulars" here and are mostly boating related.
27 of them are political cross postings, thanks to Harry.

Eisboch

If we were to leave that sick puppy alone, he might just get bored and
leave.

That would be nice, but given his history over the past 14 years, I doubt it
will happen soon.
He has an insatiable need to be seen, heard and to spread his political
gospel.

Dragging the other NGs in here by crossposting is just another example of
his hypocrisy and his ill will to those who don't share his POV.

Ironically, he represents everything that is bad in his political
affiliation.

Eisboch


Not to be an asshole or anything,

Not to worry; you don't have to work at being an asshole.
Got any more off-topic crap to post here today? Isn't it about time for
more photos of your clonekids?

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:41:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:47:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Raphael" wrote in message
.. .

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Checked the rec.boats newsgroup this morning. 37 new posts

10 are from "regulars" here and are mostly boating related.
27 of them are political cross postings, thanks to Harry.

Eisboch


If we were to leave that sick puppy alone, he might just get bored and
leave.


That would be nice, but given his history over the past 14 years, I doubt
it
will happen soon.
He has an insatiable need to be seen, heard and to spread his political
gospel.

Dragging the other NGs in here by crossposting is just another example of
his hypocrisy and his ill will to those who don't share his POV.

Ironically, he represents everything that is bad in his political
affiliation.

Eisboch


Not to be an asshole or anything, but I must point out that you let him
suck you into his **** on a daily basis.

Filter him and his supporters. Easy.



You're right. Back into the bin.
It just would be nice to see regular faces in here, discussing subjects of
common interest and not the wacko's dragged in by you know who, just to
disrupt the NG.

For the record, I enjoy reading and conversing with almost all the people
here, on boating subjects or not. Even Harry, when he is not on one of his
obnoxious political crusades. IMO, every post or subject need not be
directly boating related, as long as the subjects are of general interest to
most. If they are not of general interest, the threads or initial post soon
die.

Old school plank owners of Usenet correctly point out the practice or custom
of 100% on-topic posting. The practice originated back in the days of 1200
baud (or less), dial-up, Internet connections where downloading a bunch of
posts would take 10 minutes or more. In those days it was important to
stay completely on topic because otherwise you wasted people's time and
affected telephone bills as they downloaded off topic posts.

Those days are gone. It takes a second now to download the subject headers
of a 100 or more posts. IMO, (and it's only an opinion) the speed and
bandwidth today allows for a relaxation of old Usenet customs. Discussing
varied subjects, of common interest, is not a big deal, in my opinion.
Personal insults, flame wars, threats, or using the NG on a regular basis to
further one's own agenda should still be off-limits, I think, but it's
probably too much to realistically expect.

Eisboch



Politics and religion have always been the downfall of this group. We've
all had that discussion many times in the past. The boy in question
isolated himself with more than just politics.


--
John H.

Eisboch wrote:
"Raphael" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Checked the rec.boats newsgroup this morning. 37 new posts

10 are from "regulars" here and are mostly boating related.
27 of them are political cross postings, thanks to Harry.

Eisboch

If we were to leave that sick puppy alone, he might just get bored and
leave.


That would be nice, but given his history over the past 14 years, I doubt it
will happen soon.
He has an insatiable need to be seen, heard and to spread his political
gospel.

Dragging the other NGs in here by crossposting is just another example of
his hypocrisy and his ill will to those who don't share his POV.

Ironically, he represents everything that is bad in his political
affiliation.

Eisboch


And quoting him only serves his purpose. No point in doing that.
No point in complaining about him either. Of the thousands of complaints
about Harry that have been posted here, few affect him. Although I did
notice he gets upset when he is called a draft dodging coward. And he
does get a little uptight when we critique his little L.T. boat. ;-)

You are the last person of merit that will talk to him on a regular
basis. I wish you would stop.

John H. wrote:



Politics and religion have always been the downfall of this group. We've
all had that discussion many times in the past. The boy in question
isolated himself with more than just politics.



Tell us about your golf game, your travel trailer, your diaper cruises,
your motorcycle adventures, your tribe of grandchildren, your, your,
your...nothing but off-topic posts.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:41:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Personal insults, flame wars, threats, or using the NG on a regular basis to
further one's own agenda should still be off-limits, I think, but it's
probably too much to realistically expect.

Does this mean that I can't call you and Jim Squids anymore?

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

SO long as you have a DD214 you can say anything you want, no neck
bullet head. ;-)

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:02:49 -0400, WaIIy wrote:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:41:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:47:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Raphael" wrote in message
. ..

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
Checked the rec.boats newsgroup this morning. 37 new posts

10 are from "regulars" here and are mostly boating related.
27 of them are political cross postings, thanks to Harry.

Eisboch


If we were to leave that sick puppy alone, he might just get bored and
leave.


That would be nice, but given his history over the past 14 years, I doubt
it
will happen soon.
He has an insatiable need to be seen, heard and to spread his political
gospel.

Dragging the other NGs in here by crossposting is just another example of
his hypocrisy and his ill will to those who don't share his POV.

Ironically, he represents everything that is bad in his political
affiliation.

Eisboch


Not to be an asshole or anything, but I must point out that you let him
suck you into his **** on a daily basis.

Filter him and his supporters. Easy.



You're right. Back into the bin.
It just would be nice to see regular faces in here, discussing subjects of
common interest and not the wacko's dragged in by you know who, just to
disrupt the NG.

For the record, I enjoy reading and conversing with almost all the people
here, on boating subjects or not. Even Harry, when he is not on one of his
obnoxious political crusades. IMO, every post or subject need not be
directly boating related, as long as the subjects are of general interest to
most. If they are not of general interest, the threads or initial post soon
die.

Old school plank owners of Usenet correctly point out the practice or custom
of 100% on-topic posting. The practice originated back in the days of 1200
baud (or less), dial-up, Internet connections where downloading a bunch of
posts would take 10 minutes or more. In those days it was important to
stay completely on topic because otherwise you wasted people's time and
affected telephone bills as they downloaded off topic posts.

Those days are gone. It takes a second now to download the subject headers
of a 100 or more posts. IMO, (and it's only an opinion) the speed and
bandwidth today allows for a relaxation of old Usenet customs. Discussing
varied subjects, of common interest, is not a big deal, in my opinion.
Personal insults, flame wars, threats, or using the NG on a regular basis to
further one's own agenda should still be off-limits, I think, but it's
probably too much to realistically expect.

Eisboch



A very reasoned post. Without the hk stuff, it's like sitting around
the dock and discussing a variety of subjects.

If it was limited strictly to boating, the posts would be pretty thin.

Usenet isn't exactly growing.

Don't know if anyone's noticed this,

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

but it may be indicative of what the big guys are doing. Cox is still
'supporting' newsgroups as a 'free service'. Somewhere along the line Cox
excluded newsgroups as part of their 'internet access' for which one pays.

Now that Comcast is discontinuing the service, I wonder how long it will be
before Cox does the same.
--
John H.

"jim" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:41:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Personal insults, flame wars, threats, or using the NG on a regular
basis to further one's own agenda should still be off-limits, I think,
but it's probably too much to realistically expect.

Does this mean that I can't call you and Jim Squids anymore?

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

SO long as you have a DD214 you can say anything you want, no neck bullet
head. ;-)

Doesn't everyone have a DD214?