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Don White September 18th 08 04:44 AM

California junk?
 
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a point...........
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...ers-saved.html



[email protected] September 18th 08 02:57 PM

California junk?
 
On Sep 17, 11:44*pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....


Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

Harry the K September 18th 08 03:10 PM

California junk?
 
wrote:
On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a point...........
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....

Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...



Boat on the manufacturer's site looks too narrow for its length, looks
too top heavy, and looks like those twin engines are far enough away
from the bow to stern centerline to create some interesting stability
problems.

http://www.modenasport.com/firehawk28.html


On what are you basing your opinion? Your years of experience driving
fairly heavy workboats with full crew and gear aboard? Or, more likely,
your dislike of Don?



Don White September 18th 08 06:11 PM

California junk?
 

wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....


Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

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Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.



Calif Bill September 18th 08 07:08 PM

California junk?
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept
put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....


Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

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Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.


a 28' fireboat?



Don White September 18th 08 07:44 PM

California junk?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept
put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about
not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....


Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

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Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.


a 28' fireboat?


The navy has a couple here....... not sure why the fire dept decided they
needed one now, after 259 years without one.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1079540.html



Harry the K September 18th 08 07:49 PM

California junk?
 
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept
put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about
not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....
Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

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Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.

a 28' fireboat?


The navy has a couple here....... not sure why the fire dept decided they
needed one now, after 259 years without one.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1079540.html



I would hope a couple of naval architects would comment on the reasons
for the tipover. As soon as I saw a stern shot of the boat, I had a
suspicion about the cause.

Don White September 20th 08 12:13 AM

California junk?
 

"Harry the K" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept
put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about
not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....
Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.

a 28' fireboat?


The navy has a couple here....... not sure why the fire dept decided they
needed one now, after 259 years without one.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1079540.html


I would hope a couple of naval architects would comment on the reasons for
the tipover. As soon as I saw a stern shot of the boat, I had a suspicion
about the cause.


More info on the new fireboat...
Seems there is only one other Firehawk 28 in operation...in a place called
Vinyard, South Carolina. They only let three people on + 2 more while
training.
Bottom line...with a minimum crew, there had better not be too many victims
waiting to be rescued by this boat.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...efighters.html



A Real Boater September 20th 08 12:32 AM

California junk?
 
Don White wrote:
"Harry the K" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire dept
put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about
not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....
Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.

a 28' fireboat?
The navy has a couple here....... not sure why the fire dept decided they
needed one now, after 259 years without one.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1079540.html

I would hope a couple of naval architects would comment on the reasons for
the tipover. As soon as I saw a stern shot of the boat, I had a suspicion
about the cause.


More info on the new fireboat...
Seems there is only one other Firehawk 28 in operation...in a place called
Vinyard, South Carolina. They only let three people on + 2 more while
training.
Bottom line...with a minimum crew, there had better not be too many victims
waiting to be rescued by this boat.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...efighters.html




The boat is visible tippy, and with those big outboards out at the
edge...sheesh.

Don White September 24th 08 04:07 PM

California junk?
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"Harry the K" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Don White" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Sep 17, 11:44 pm, "Don White" wrote:
There was a bit of controversery a while back when the local fire
dept put
out a tender and decided on a fireboat from California.
A number of local boat builders, such as Rosborough, complained about
not
buying locally.
Maybe they have a
point...........http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...rescuers-saved....
Mabey your govt needs more oversight over captains that can't drive...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Did you miss the part where the manafacturers rep was aboard?
I imagine fingers will be pointing back & forth.

a 28' fireboat?

The navy has a couple here....... not sure why the fire dept decided
they needed one now, after 259 years without one.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1079540.html


I would hope a couple of naval architects would comment on the reasons
for the tipover. As soon as I saw a stern shot of the boat, I had a
suspicion about the cause.


More info on the new fireboat...
Seems there is only one other Firehawk 28 in operation...in a place called
Vinyard, South Carolina. They only let three people on + 2 more while
training.
Bottom line...with a minimum crew, there had better not be too many
victims waiting to be rescued by this boat.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...efighters.html


Still ongoing...... the deal is off...the boat didn't pass specs and now
Transport Canada has grabbed the boat for testing.
note: the deputy fire captain puhing for this boat was caught and almost
drowned when the boat flipped.
Montreal has ordered three of the Rosborough 'Hammer Head' style fireboats
manufactured right here in Halifax.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia...eboat-tsb.html

http://www.rosboroughboats.com/professional.html




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