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Vic Smith September 15th 08 02:24 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes.
Only one I ever saw. It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?

--Vic


Vic Smith September 15th 08 02:30 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes.
Only one I ever saw. It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?

BTW, the boat was an open shell, not enclosed anywhere, with a tiller
motor.

--Vic

A Boater September 15th 08 02:35 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
Vic Smith wrote:
Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes.
Only one I ever saw. It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?

--Vic



There were many small outboard racing hydroplanes and "utility" racing
boats of late 1940s and 1950s vintage that survived into the 1960s and
later. For the smaller boats, some about the size you mentioned, popular
engines with in the 10 and 20 hp range.

Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html

[email protected] September 15th 08 02:40 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Sep 15, 9:24*am, Vic Smith wrote:
Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. *Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. *Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. *I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. *Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes. *
Only one I ever saw. *It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?

--Vic


My uncle sold some boats called AquaKarts once in the early 70's They
had McCullough engines and looked like miniature hydro racing boats.
The boat you describe sounds like one I had seen in Florida when I was
in grade school.

Vic Smith September 15th 08 02:47 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:


There were many small outboard racing hydroplanes and "utility" racing
boats of late 1940s and 1950s vintage that survived into the 1960s and
later. For the smaller boats, some about the size you mentioned, popular
engines with in the 10 and 20 hp range.

Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html


Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic

Vic Smith September 15th 08 02:56 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:40:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


My uncle sold some boats called AquaKarts once in the early 70's They
had McCullough engines and looked like miniature hydro racing boats.
The boat you describe sounds like one I had seen in Florida when I was
in grade school.


What I saw might have been a one off. It was a real simple shell,
like a 12" deep bathtub with the sides flared out 6".
If I see something like it I'll post a link.
Maybe my memory is failing too, but I saw it pretty close a number of
times.

--Vic

A Boater September 15th 08 02:57 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:

There were many small outboard racing hydroplanes and "utility" racing
boats of late 1940s and 1950s vintage that survived into the 1960s and
later. For the smaller boats, some about the size you mentioned, popular
engines with in the 10 and 20 hp range.

Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html


Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic




Well, I recall a couple of rowboats that would fly with a small
outboard. One was made by a company called Skimmar. It had a flat
bottom, but a turned up bow. I think there was a 10-footer. It was
entirely open.

Richard Casady September 15th 08 03:23 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes.
Only one I ever saw. It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?


That's nothing, there was a ten foot three point hydroplane on Spirt
Lake Iowa, back in the fifties. Had an eighteen horse motor.

Casady

A Boater[_2_] September 15th 08 03:30 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes.
Only one I ever saw. It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?


That's nothing, there was a ten foot three point hydroplane on Spirt
Lake Iowa, back in the fifties. Had an eighteen horse motor.

Casady



An Evinrude Fastwin? Great motors. I had a couple.

Wayne.B September 15th 08 04:39 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:23:20 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

That's nothing, there was a ten foot three point hydroplane on Spirt
Lake Iowa, back in the fifties. Had an eighteen horse motor.


My brother and I had a homebuilt 3 point hydro in the early 60s. It
was 8 ft long and scary fast with an old Merc 7 1/2 on it. Control
was a big issue and it required a bit of body english to get it
turning properly. Freeboard was just about non-existent, with a 1 ft
wake enough to submarine it.


Calif Bill September 15th 08 08:30 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:24:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Back in the late '50's when I spent my summers rowing around fishing
in Bluff Lake in Illinois' Chain-O-Lakes, there was kid about my age
who had a little speedboat.
He didn't take it out often, and never bothered the fishermen, which
at the time were virtually the only lake users.
The boat looked to be for a single person, and had about 6" of
freeboard. Maybe 10' long, 4' beam.
He had a "huge" motor, maybe a 25hp Johnson or Evinrude. Not a Merc
for sure.
That thing would fly, maybe 50mph, and jump even small waves.
Had to be almost flat and the lake almost empty for him to take it
out. I got the impression he used it because he had it, not because
he particularly enjoyed it much. Never saw him out for more than
about 15-20 minutes.
Only one I ever saw. It was red, and I'm almost sure it was glass.
Ring any bells?


That's nothing, there was a ten foot three point hydroplane on Spirt
Lake Iowa, back in the fifties. Had an eighteen horse motor.

Casady


The "Crackerbox racer"



[email protected] September 15th 08 10:44 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:39:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:23:20 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

That's nothing, there was a ten foot three point hydroplane on Spirt
Lake Iowa, back in the fifties. Had an eighteen horse motor.


My brother and I had a homebuilt 3 point hydro in the early 60s. It
was 8 ft long and scary fast with an old Merc 7 1/2 on it. Control
was a big issue and it required a bit of body english to get it
turning properly. Freeboard was just about non-existent, with a 1 ft
wake enough to submarine it.


In Norwalk Harbor there were always a bunch of home made little
hydro's. They used to have plans in the back of magazines that told
how to make one using two sheets of plywood. It didn't take much power
to make them fly. Lots of kids built them in woodshop class.


-rick- September 16th 08 04:17 AM

Tiny Speedboats
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:


Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html


Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic


Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit
river near Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm

Vic Smith September 16th 08 11:50 AM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:17:59 -0700, -rick- wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:


Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html


Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic


Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit
river near Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm


That's pretty close, and maybe it's what I saw.
Seemed it was open and tiller steered, but it was a long time ago.

--Vic

Rowdy Mouse Racing September 16th 08 02:14 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
-rick- wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:


Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html


Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic


Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit river near
Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm

I have the plans for this and dozens of other similar boats if anyone is
interested.... Just thought I would throw that out there..

A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 02:18 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
leo wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:14:32 -0400, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:

-rick- wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:
Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html
Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic
Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit river near
Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm

I have the plans for this and dozens of other similar boats if anyone is
interested.... Just thought I would throw that out there..


Did you sell the one you were trying to sell?


The paint fell off.

leo[_2_] September 16th 08 02:18 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:14:32 -0400, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:

-rick- wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:


Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html

Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic


Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit river near
Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm

I have the plans for this and dozens of other similar boats if anyone is
interested.... Just thought I would throw that out there..


Did you sell the one you were trying to sell?

[email protected] September 16th 08 02:40 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
On Sep 15, 11:17*pm, -rick- wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:
Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.


http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx


Here's another site:


http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html


Interesting, but different. *The one I saw was basically a shell.


--Vic


Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit
river near Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm


I keep looking for pictures, and information on Aqua Carts (or Karts
maybe?) My uncle sold them, they came in many flavors, from dinghy to
miniature hydros. Early 70's.

Rowdy Mouse Racing September 16th 08 03:22 PM

Tiny Speedboats
 
leo wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:14:32 -0400, Rowdy Mouse Racing
wrote:

-rick- wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:35:04 -0400, A Boater wrote:
Saw this on ebay...it's a couple of feet larger than what you recall,
but the style is typical.

http://tinyurl.com/59pqwx

Here's another site:

http://www.kruitzkraft.com/mb1025.html
Interesting, but different. The one I saw was basically a shell.

--Vic
Friends used to race something like these on the Detroit river near
Grosse Ile in the '60's.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5820.htm

I have the plans for this and dozens of other similar boats if anyone is
interested.... Just thought I would throw that out there..


Did you sell the one you were trying to sell?

Nope, been too busy to get it painted and out there..


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