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HK September 13th 08 02:11 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
Dave Brown wrote:
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




Shrinkwrap?

I pull all the upholstery out of my Parker before having it wrapped. So
far, knock on fiberglass, no rodents. Perhaps the problem isn't too bad
around here because we have lots of predatory birds that don't go south
for the winter. We've got a corn field not too far away, but I've never
seen a mouse or a rat in it...there are plenty of hawks and owls in the
nearby trees and barns, and none of them are thin.

Eisboch September 13th 08 02:23 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter rodents
from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of 2006/2007 was a
particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter, we didn't have a
single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes away
for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can have on
humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and carpet
urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die inside an
inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be aware
that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as it makes
it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a small amount of
canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's location part of
the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the horse
barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next door neighbor
adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) makes the barn part
of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of field
mice in the barn.

EIsboch



Vic Smith September 13th 08 02:29 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:06:42 -0500, Dave Brown
wrote:

No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?


I'm guessing you didn't have any last year because the population was
down. Not providing food and nesting materials in the stored boat is a
start.
I found this, which covers a number of solutions.
http://my.boatus.com/forum/forum_pos...TID=50954&PN=1

If you can't keep them from getting in the boat, I like the bale of
hay and plenty of poison idea.
The fox scent - I don't know if that might leave a smell.

--Vic


Dave Brown September 13th 08 03:06 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?

--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

jim[_7_] September 13th 08 03:33 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter rodents
from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of 2006/2007 was a
particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter, we didn't have a
single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes away
for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can have on
humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and carpet
urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die inside an
inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be aware
that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as it makes
it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a small amount of
canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's location part of
the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the horse
barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next door neighbor
adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) makes the barn part
of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of field
mice in the barn.

EIsboch


That's trading one pest for another. Traps work.

JR North September 13th 08 04:37 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
This does come up every year.......
Rodents go where the munchies are. Remove the food source, and they
will leave. Period.
Rat bait is counter productive. It may kill them, but still attracts
them, which you don't want.
Boats are attractive to rodents. They don't have to have that
forgotten open can of sardines in the locker. The smell of past
cooking from the galley, or the portapotty locker is more than enough
to tell them "there is food here". Wipe down the boats interior with
alcohol, bleach, etc. Remove every last crumb from that breakfast
muffin the owner dropped last year.
Remve the source, and the *suggestion* of source, and the rodents will
pack up and go somewhere else.
That;s all there is to it.
JR

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:06:42 -0500, Dave Brown
wrote:

No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?


[email protected] September 13th 08 05:45 PM

Rodents in Boats
 


Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter rodents
from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of 2006/2007 was a
particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter, we didn't have a
single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes away
for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can have on
humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and carpet
urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die inside an
inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be aware
that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as it makes
it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a small amount of
canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's location part of
the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the horse
barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next door neighbor
adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) makes the barn part
of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of field
mice in the barn.

EIsboch


I read the header, and instantly thought........Oh, you know!

HK September 13th 08 06:10 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter rodents
from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of 2006/2007 was a
particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter, we didn't have a
single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes away
for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can have on
humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and carpet
urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die inside an
inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?



One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be aware
that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as it makes
it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a small amount of
canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's location part of
the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the horse
barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next door neighbor
adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) makes the barn part
of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of field
mice in the barn.

EIsboch


I read the header, and instantly thought........Oh, you know!



You and Justwait having lunch?

Eisboch September 13th 08 11:52 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

"jim" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be
aware that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as
it makes it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a
small amount of canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's
location part of the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the
horse barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next door
neighbor adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) makes
the barn part of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of
field mice in the barn.

EIsboch

That's trading one pest for another. Traps work.


I don't see the cats as pests at all. In fact, I like 'em. One is very
friendly and loves to be petted. I don't feed them or take care of them
...... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.

Eisboch



Eisboch September 13th 08 11:56 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

"JR North" wrote in message
...

This does come up every year.......
Rodents go where the munchies are. Remove the food source, and they
will leave. Period.



Sorry, but I just don't buy it.

There was no food source left in the air filter intake of the car I stored
outside a couple of years ago. It was simply a nice, sheltered winter home
for the little suckers.

Eisboch



Richard Casady September 14th 08 12:38 AM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:52:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't see the cats as pests at all. In fact, I like 'em. One is very
friendly and loves to be petted. I don't feed them or take care of them
..... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.


The feed store has " barn cat food " 16 bucks for a 50 pound bag. Only
about twice as much as cracked corn.

Casady

Eisboch September 14th 08 12:49 AM

Rodents in Boats
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:52:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't see the cats as pests at all. In fact, I like 'em. One is very
friendly and loves to be petted. I don't feed them or take care of them
..... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.


The feed store has " barn cat food " 16 bucks for a 50 pound bag. Only
about twice as much as cracked corn.

Casady



Horse people love having "barn cats" around.

When we wintered in Florida Mrs.E. shipped her horses down there, and she
often mentioned the benefits of having a barn cat.

One day the Animal Rescue League or some such animal lovers group had a big
adoption van stationed in the local Publix supermarket parking lot. I
remembered Mrs.E's comments about having a barn cat and decided I'd get her
one.

I entered the van and reviewed crate after crate of cats of all shapes and
colors. I finally found one that looked pretty cool and tough and called
the attendant over, saying that I'd like to take it.

She asked a few questions, including why I wanted it. When I told her I
wanted a barn cat to keep the unwanted critters out of the horse barn, the
attendant became indignant. She told me "her" stray cats needed a loving
home, etc., etc., etc., and how my plans were cruel.

Thanks anyway .... and I left.

Eisboch



Don White September 14th 08 02:21 AM

Rodents in Boats
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"jim" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last
winter, we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we
store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to
get in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be
aware that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as
it makes it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a
small amount of canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make
it's location part of the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the
horse barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next
door neighbor adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?)
makes the barn part of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of
field mice in the barn.

EIsboch

That's trading one pest for another. Traps work.


I don't see the cats as pests at all. In fact, I like 'em. One is very
friendly and loves to be petted. I don't feed them or take care of them
..... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.

Eisboch


Nice buddy you have there!
Next he'll be telling you to use them for target practice with the 12 gauge.



HK September 14th 08 02:23 AM

Rodents in Boats
 
Don White wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"jim" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last
winter, we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we
store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to
get in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?



One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be
aware that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as
it makes it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a
small amount of canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make
it's location part of the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the
horse barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next
door neighbor adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?)
makes the barn part of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of
field mice in the barn.

EIsboch
That's trading one pest for another. Traps work.

I don't see the cats as pests at all. In fact, I like 'em. One is very
friendly and loves to be petted. I don't feed them or take care of them
..... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.

Eisboch


Nice buddy you have there!
Next he'll be telling you to use them for target practice with the 12 gauge.




FloridaJim doesn't like cats because you have to feed them and keep them
safe and healthy in return for their love as pets. In FloridaJim's mind,
if he can't turn a profit with a little pussy, it's not worth the effort
to him.

I suppose that makes him...a pimp.

Mike[_10_] September 14th 08 03:59 AM

Rodents in Boats
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:52:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I don't see the cats as pests at all. In fact, I like 'em. One is
very
friendly and loves to be petted. I don't feed them or take care of them
..... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.


The feed store has " barn cat food " 16 bucks for a 50 pound bag. Only
about twice as much as cracked corn.

Casady



Horse people love having "barn cats" around.

When we wintered in Florida Mrs.E. shipped her horses down there, and she
often mentioned the benefits of having a barn cat.

One day the Animal Rescue League or some such animal lovers group had a
big adoption van stationed in the local Publix supermarket parking lot.
I remembered Mrs.E's comments about having a barn cat and decided I'd get
her one.

I entered the van and reviewed crate after crate of cats of all shapes and
colors. I finally found one that looked pretty cool and tough and called
the attendant over, saying that I'd like to take it.

She asked a few questions, including why I wanted it. When I told her I
wanted a barn cat to keep the unwanted critters out of the horse barn, the
attendant became indignant. She told me "her" stray cats needed a loving
home, etc., etc., etc., and how my plans were cruel.

Thanks anyway .... and I left.

Eisboch


We had barn cats on our horse farm when I was a kid. They did their job, and
were well as well cared for as our horses, and other livestock. My
grandmother fed them every night, and it included a bowl of milk, fresh from
Elsie. We rarely had any other critters in the barns.

Oh yeah, we had an old rowboat that we'd use for fishing in the small lake
nearby. The cats never wanted to go...

Just keeping it boating related. g

--Mike



MMC September 14th 08 04:11 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommunica tions.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can have
on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?




One word.

Cat.

The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. It just needs to be
aware that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as
it makes it's daily rounds. An initial training period of leaving a
small amount of canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's
location part of the cat's daily prowl.

We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the
horse barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. Our next door
neighbor adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) makes
the barn part of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of field
mice in the barn.

EIsboch

I'll agree with that. My old house was on the Indian River in Central
Florida with overgrown vacant land on 2 sides (200' on one side and about
1,000' on the other). As you might imagine, there are plenty of rodents and
snakes in places like this in Florida. We use to get rats, mice and snakes
in the yard shed and my shop and the occasional snake in the house (good
weather with doors open), then one day someone dumped a kitten in our yard.
She became our "mouser". Lived in the shop with free run of the yard and
kept the vermin away.
She died when a neighbor started setting out rat poison (didn't like cats).
I won't touch poison because of the problems caused when the rodents eat it
and die in hard to get to places and the first warning sign being the stink,
which only gets worse if not tended to or until the courpse mummifies or is
eaten by other vermin and insect. Or the family pet.



Tim September 15th 08 05:08 AM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sep 13, 5:52*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"jim" wrote in message

...





Eisboch wrote:
"Dave Brown" wrote in message
news:UtWdncaSmcFWJ1bVnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@wtccommuni cations.ca...
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this
topic.


I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.


There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).


Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.


Thoughts? Ideas?


One word.


Cat.


The cat doesn't have to live on or near the boat. *It just needs to be
aware that the boat is a rewarding place to visit once or twice a day as
it makes it's daily rounds. * An initial training period of leaving a
small amount of canned tuna in the area of the stored boat will make it's
location part of the cat's daily prowl.


We have a lot of field mice in the horse paddocks at our house and the
horse barn had evidence of them making themselves at home. *Our next door
neighbor adopted a stray cat a couple of years ago and he (she?) *makes
the barn part of the daily rounds.
Occasionally we have seen it accompanied by a second cat. * Since they
started their daily visits, we have not seen any further evidence of
field mice in the barn.


EIsboch

That's trading one pest for another. Traps work.


I don't see the cats as pests at all. *In fact, I like 'em. * *One is very
friendly and loves to be petted. *I don't feed them or take care of them
..... they just make a twice daily patrol of the yard and barn.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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Oh they can be a great thwart to mice, especially an old Calico that's
jsut had kittens. But I'd also be concerned about a cat that likes to
climb in a boat, take a crap (or puke) on the carpet, and use some
good boat furniture for a scratching post.

[email protected] September 15th 08 05:48 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sep 13, 10:06*am, Dave Brown wrote:
No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this topic.

I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.

There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).

Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.

Thoughts? Ideas?

--
Regards,
* * * Dave Brown
* * * Brown's Marina Ltd
* * *http://brownsmarina.com/


How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

Tim September 15th 08 05:59 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sep 15, 11:48*am, "
wrote:
On Sep 13, 10:06*am, Dave Brown wrote:





No doubt this has been discussed before, but let's see if we can get a
little more boat action going in here and see what may be new on this topic.


I received an e-mail this morning from someone asking how to deter
rodents from nesting in their boat over the winter. The winter of
2006/2007 was a particularly bad year in our region and yet last winter,
we didn't have a single occurrence in any of the 200+ boats we store.


There are common remedies like dryer sheets and moth balls, but I have
seen infestations with both of these used. Plus, the smell never goes
away for either (not to mention the health effect the moth balls can
have on humans).


Last year I went with rodent baits hoping that if they were going to get
in, they'd at least be killed before the upholstery was trashed and
carpet urine soaked. Of course, having one of the little buggers die
inside an inaccessible panel wouldn't be pleasant either.


Thoughts? Ideas?


--
Regards,
* * * Dave Brown
* * * Brown's Marina Ltd
* * *http://brownsmarina.com/


How does the rodents get inside the boat? *If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? *Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. *I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan- Hide quoted text -

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Good to see you Jay!

glad you stopped by.

Eisboch September 16th 08 03:05 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

wrote in message
...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch



A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 03:09 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch




I have a forest full of raccoons and foxes and predatory birds...no mice.

[email protected] September 16th 08 03:21 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sep 16, 10:05*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? *If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? *Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. *I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch


Oh, good God, the resident idiot claims that there's no field mice
where he lives because there's raccoons and foxes!!! And he claims he
lives next to corn fields. Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!

Eisboch September 16th 08 03:35 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

wrote in message
...
On Sep 16, 10:05 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come
in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also
squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch


Oh, good God, the resident idiot claims that there's no field mice
where he lives because there's raccoons and foxes!!! And he claims he
lives next to corn fields. Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!

------------------------------------------
?????????????????
Who said anything about raccoons, foxes and corn fields?

Eisboch



A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 03:43 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:05 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch


Oh, good God, the resident idiot claims that there's no field mice
where he lives because there's raccoons and foxes!!! And he claims he
lives next to corn fields. Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!




A. Raccoons eat small mammals, though it is not their favorite diet.

B. Foxes eat small mammals, including rodents.

C. Hawks and owls eat small mammals, including rodents.

D. I never ever claimed I lived *next* to a corn field,
schitt-for-brains. I do live *near* several corn fields. I realize that
as a high school dropout, your facility with language is...limited.
There is a difference in meaning between *next* and *near*, and the
difference is not subtle.

E. There are a few feral cats in the area, though I rarely see them. I
suspect they are good mousers, too.


A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 04:08 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:43:58 -0400, A Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:05 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch
Oh, good God, the resident idiot claims that there's no field mice
where he lives because there's raccoons and foxes!!! And he claims he
lives next to corn fields. Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!



A. Raccoons eat small mammals, though it is not their favorite diet.

B. Foxes eat small mammals, including rodents.

C. Hawks and owls eat small mammals, including rodents.

D. I never ever claimed I lived *next* to a corn field,
schitt-for-brains. I do live *near* several corn fields. I realize that
as a high school dropout, your facility with language is...limited.
There is a difference in meaning between *next* and *near*, and the
difference is not subtle.

E. There are a few feral cats in the area, though I rarely see them. I
suspect they are good mousers, too.


Harry,

If there were NO mice in your area, the predators would have left
looking for a better supply elsewhere.

Your rodent population might be under control, but you still have a
good supply present.



We live next to a forest. I'm certain it has rodents in it. The ones
that make themselves visible to the predators get eaten. I would presume
the "eaten" include those who might be interested in our house or its
immediate surroundings.


[email protected] September 16th 08 05:33 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Sep 16, 10:05*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? *If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? *Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. *I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch


The boat surface is flat and smooth. I cannot see how they can climb
up such a smooth surface. Having said that, if they can climb up a
rope, they may be able to get on board because there are ropes tying
down the boat cover and the boat cover is not a tight-fit. And I am
sure that cat can jump very high and can jump up onto the boat through
the transom (the lowest spot). You are right. If small animals want
to get on board, they will get in. Oh well... On the other hand, I
doubt that a boat is a comfortable place for small animals. Boat is
very hot under the boat cover in the summer, and boat is very cold in
the winter. There are probably more comfortable place for small
animals in my yard than my boat, such as my compost piles that are
warm even in a cold winter.

Jay Chan

A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 08:38 PM

Rodents in Boats
 
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:21:51 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!


Of course not. Nothing there there for mice. No weed seeds left over
from last year. No food until it is picked, with a bit of spillage.
Unmowed weed fields is what they like.



You and your boy loogy should get a room. Did someone claim that corn
fields were not good habitat for mice? Not me. We have lots of hawks and
owls around here, though...and they do a nice job on the mice. They'd
probably get a small cat, too.

Raphael September 16th 08 11:50 PM

Rodents in Boats
 

"A Boater" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:43:58 -0400, A Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:05 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...

How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse we
own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice that
come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can also
squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch
Oh, good God, the resident idiot claims that there's no field mice
where he lives because there's raccoons and foxes!!! And he claims he
lives next to corn fields. Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!


A. Raccoons eat small mammals, though it is not their favorite diet.

B. Foxes eat small mammals, including rodents.

C. Hawks and owls eat small mammals, including rodents.

D. I never ever claimed I lived *next* to a corn field,
schitt-for-brains. I do live *near* several corn fields. I realize that
as a high school dropout, your facility with language is...limited.
There is a difference in meaning between *next* and *near*, and the
difference is not subtle.

E. There are a few feral cats in the area, though I rarely see them. I
suspect they are good mousers, too.


Harry,

If there were NO mice in your area, the predators would have left
looking for a better supply elsewhere.

Your rodent population might be under control, but you still have a
good supply present.



We live next to a forest. I'm certain it has rodents in it. The ones that
make themselves visible to the predators get eaten. I would presume the
"eaten" include those who might be interested in our house or its
immediate surroundings.

You live next to a stand of trees. The next development of cookie cutters is
about 500 ft or less from your back door.


A Boater[_2_] September 17th 08 12:03 AM

Rodents in Boats
 
Raphael wrote:

"A Boater" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:43:58 -0400, A Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 16, 10:05 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...


How does the rodents get inside the boat? If the boat is kept high
above ground on a trailer, rodents should have a hard time getting
inside, right? Even I have a problem climbing on board of my boat
from the step of the trailer. I am not saying that this won't
happen;
I am asking this because I have a boat on a trailer and I don't want
any rodents to live inside and damage my boat.

Any idea?

Jay Chan

-------------------------------

We have a pest control guy service an old, 208 year old farmhouse
we own
once a year to keep it from becoming home for little field mice
that come in
from in the surrounding land/horse paddocks.

He told me that field mice can climb virtually anything and can
also squeeze
themselves through an opening as small as the diameter of a pencil.

Eisboch
Oh, good God, the resident idiot claims that there's no field mice
where he lives because there's raccoons and foxes!!! And he claims he
lives next to corn fields. Corn fields are the best habitat in the
world for field mice!


A. Raccoons eat small mammals, though it is not their favorite diet.

B. Foxes eat small mammals, including rodents.

C. Hawks and owls eat small mammals, including rodents.

D. I never ever claimed I lived *next* to a corn field,
schitt-for-brains. I do live *near* several corn fields. I realize
that as a high school dropout, your facility with language
is...limited. There is a difference in meaning between *next* and
*near*, and the difference is not subtle.

E. There are a few feral cats in the area, though I rarely see them.
I suspect they are good mousers, too.

Harry,

If there were NO mice in your area, the predators would have left
looking for a better supply elsewhere.

Your rodent population might be under control, but you still have a
good supply present.



We live next to a forest. I'm certain it has rodents in it. The ones
that make themselves visible to the predators get eaten. I would
presume the "eaten" include those who might be interested in our house
or its immediate surroundings.

You live next to a stand of trees. The next development of cookie
cutters is about 500 ft or less from your back door.



Sure, schitt-for-brains...whatever you say.


Eisboch September 17th 08 12:19 AM

Rodents in Boats
 

"Raphael" wrote in message
...


You live next to a stand of trees. The next development of cookie cutters
is about 500 ft or less from your back door.


Where's "stumpy"?

Eisboch



A Boater[_2_] September 17th 08 12:44 AM

Rodents in Boats
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Raphael" wrote in message
...
You live next to a stand of trees. The next development of cookie cutters
is about 500 ft or less from your back door.


Where's "stumpy"?

Eisboch




"Stumpy" lived out in what is now a drain field on a small farm next to
the Shenandoah River. "Stumpy" had a long and useful life, but was
tractored out when the field was cleared and repaired for the trenches.

RIP, "Stumpy."


John H.[_5_] September 17th 08 01:22 AM

Rodents in Boats
 
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:19:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Raphael" wrote in message
...


You live next to a stand of trees. The next development of cookie cutters
is about 500 ft or less from your back door.


Where's "stumpy"?

Eisboch


Since you asked...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ing1/STUMP.jpg
--
John H.


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