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On Sep 4, 3:20*pm, wrote:
On Sep 4, 3:15*pm, wrote: On Sep 4, 2:16*pm, hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: wrote in message ... On Sep 4, 10:26 am, hk wrote: Well, because folks here have seen both of us. I am 5'8" and about 155, you are nearly 5'3" and nearly 200 pounds. Facts are facts.... 5'3"? Surely you jest. I'm 6'2-1/2" tall. That extra 1/2 inch is mighty important to Harry, you know. *He just *had* to point that out. BTW ..... nice try in your attempt to start a bonifide, on-topic, boating related thread regarding the boat painting. I've often heard of the "roll and tip" method and have seen the impressive results, but had never done it or even understood it. Too bad Harry had to immediately jump on your case with personal insults as usual, even after all his complaining of rec.boats going down the toilet, etc. * *Seems he just can't help to to jump at every opportunity. Eisboch Have you not seen the results of JustWait's painting prowess, or his own admission today that he is a sloppy painter? If you want to see expert paintwork, look at the job Chuck had done on his tugboat. Who said (including justwait) *anything about "expert paintwork". *I appreciated his explanation of how the roll and tip technique is applied. Why don't you go find some more stuff to cut and paste about something else you know absolutely nothing about? Eisboch Googling is tough up your way, eh? http://hubpages.com/hub/Roll-and-Tip-Method-of-Painting We just repainted our dining room using the roll and tip method. We've used the "technique" for years. Don't you ever repaint anything? You roll and tip walls??????????- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure he does.. and Lobsta' boats too;)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can't WAIT to talk to the guy at the end of my street that has a painting company and tell him that Harry claims to roll and tip satin paint on interior walls!!!!!! |
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Don White wrote:
"jim" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:44:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Uh, yeah, what? You don't believe I'm over 6' tall? From the ground to your neck you are 2' 2-1/2". Your head is 4' in diameter. Eisboch That wasn't bad! It took a while, but you're catching on. I think Eisboch has earned his stripes in the Dwarf Army. What do you think, John. Just because he's tired of all the election crap doesn't mean that he's ready to take marching orders from the Lt. Colonel. It takes a real drone to fit in that motley crew. This army is comprised of independent soldiers. If we were to unite, You and WAFA would be left talking to yourselves. Jimmie boy has already smartened up and got his nose out of WAFA's ass. Unfortunately he still stinks of his association with WAFA and other things of his own making. Take care Donnie. Nice talking with you. |
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:29:21 -0400, jim wrote:
John H wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:44:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Uh, yeah, what? You don't believe I'm over 6' tall? From the ground to your neck you are 2' 2-1/2". Your head is 4' in diameter. Eisboch That wasn't bad! It took a while, but you're catching on. I think Eisboch has earned his stripes in the Dwarf Army. What do you think, John. It's down to three against the world. Perhaps they can drag more liberals in from their other group. Eisboch's OK. I think his gentlemanly conduct and willingness to talk to Harry just provided Harry with another forum for his crap. It takes a while to realize that a 'debate' with Harry is simply a debate with a four-foot head. |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:01:19 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "jim" wrote in message ... John H wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:44:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Uh, yeah, what? You don't believe I'm over 6' tall? From the ground to your neck you are 2' 2-1/2". Your head is 4' in diameter. Eisboch That wasn't bad! It took a while, but you're catching on. I think Eisboch has earned his stripes in the Dwarf Army. What do you think, John. Just because he's tired of all the election crap doesn't mean that he's ready to take marching orders from the Lt. Colonel. It takes a real drone to fit in that motley crew. Perhaps you need to learn reading for comprehension. He seemed to be tired of Harry. Oh, and don't forget this... http://tinyurl.com/o42at . You and your two buddies should be experts at it by now. |
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John H wrote:
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:44:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Uh, yeah, what? You don't believe I'm over 6' tall? From the ground to your neck you are 2' 2-1/2". Your head is 4' in diameter. Eisboch That wasn't bad! It took a while, but you're catching on. Another classy Herring post. |
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. More wisdom from Herring. |
A real mom speaks out
"hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. You are the one who brags about all the sex he got in highschool. And you are divorced also. |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:42:16 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
BTW ..... nice try in your attempt to start a bonifide, on-topic, boating related thread regarding the boat painting. I've often heard of the "roll and tip" method and have seen the impressive results, but had never done it or even understood it. It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic |
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CalifBill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. You are the one who brags about all the sex he got in highschool. And you are divorced also. Yeah, well, I was smart enough to use condoms. |
A real mom speaks out
"hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? |
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D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? I'm not a mom. |
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D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:42:16 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: BTW ..... nice try in your attempt to start a bonifide, on-topic, boating related thread regarding the boat painting. I've often heard of the "roll and tip" method and have seen the impressive results, but had never done it or even understood it. It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic Harry uses very special interior house latex of course. Custom blended just for him. Roll and tip he says. Anyway, I have a friend who hand painted the topsides of an old, '72 Hatteras last summer. He used one of the popular boat paints (forget which one), studied up on and then used the "roll and tip" method. He sanded between coats, using very, very fine paper. It came out absolutely beautiful .... almost flawless. Deep shine with no indication at all that is was not a professional spray paint job. No runs. No roll or brush strokes anywhere. Eisboch |
A real mom speaks out
"hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any political leaning claim the highest occurrences? |
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D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any political leaning claim the highest occurrences? I believe they're down by more than 40% in California, where the schools teach sex ed and contraception. In Texas, where they teach abstinence, they're up substantially. Check those stats...I'm sure you can find them. The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high.[3] The U.S. teenage pregnancy rate was at a high in the 1950s and has decreased since then, although there has been an increase in births out of wedlock.[11] The teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the 1990s; this decline manifested across all racial groups, although teenagers of African-American and Hispanic descent retain a higher rate, in comparison to that of European-Americans and Asian-Americans. **********The Guttmacher Institute attributed about 25% of the decline to abstinence and 75% to the effective use of contraceptives.**********[12] [13] However, as of 2006 the teenage birth rate began to rise once again for the first time in fourteen years.[14] This could imply that teen pregnancy rates are also on the rise, however the rise could also be due to other sources: a possible decrease in the number of abortions or a decrease in the number of miscarraiges, to name a few. The Canadian teenage birth has also trended towards a steady decline for both younger (15-17) and older (18-19) teens in the period between 1992-2002.[15] 3 a b c d e f g h UNICEF. (2001). A League Table of Teenage Births in Rich NationsPDF (888 KiB). Retrieved July 7, 2006. 11 ^ guttmacher.org 12 ^ U.S. Teenage Pregnancy Rate Drops For 10th Straight Year." Retrieved July 7, 2006. 13^ Wind, Rebecca. The Guttmacher Institute. (February 19, 2004). 14^ Teen Birth Rates Up for First Time in 14 Years, U.S. Reports 15 ^ Dryburgh, H. (2002). Teenage pregnancy. Health Reports, 12 (1), 9-18; Statistics Canada . (2005). Health Indicators, 2005, 2. Retrieved from Facts and Statistics: Sexual Health and Canadian Youth - Teen Pregnancy Rates 16^ a b Beginning Too Soon: Adolescent Sexual Behavior, Pregnancy And Parenthood, US Department of Health and Human Services, Retrieved January 25, 2007 17^ a b Teenage Mothers : Decisions and Outcomes - Provides a unique review of how teenage mothers think Policy Studies Institute, University of Westminster, 30 Oct 1998 18 ^ Guttmacher Institute. (2005). Sex and Relationships. Retrieved August 8, 2006. 19 ^ a b U.S.Teen Sexual ActivityPDF (147 KiB) Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2005. Retrieved 23 Jan 2007 Note the cite about abstinence versus contraceptives. Contraceptives usually work. Abstinence education usually does not. |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:13:39 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any political leaning claim the highest occurrences? Yes. The rate in Washington DC is in the 80% range. No more need be said. |
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U |
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On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:05:48 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:42:16 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: BTW ..... nice try in your attempt to start a bonifide, on-topic, boating related thread regarding the boat painting. I've often heard of the "roll and tip" method and have seen the impressive results, but had never done it or even understood it. It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic Harry uses very special interior house latex of course. Custom blended just for him. Roll and tip he says. Anyway, I have a friend who hand painted the topsides of an old, '72 Hatteras last summer. He used one of the popular boat paints (forget which one), studied up on and then used the "roll and tip" method. He sanded between coats, using very, very fine paper. It came out absolutely beautiful .... almost flawless. Deep shine with no indication at all that is was not a professional spray paint job. No runs. No roll or brush strokes anywhere. Sounds like a lot of work, but apparently worth it. I'd like to hear more from Scotty about why he used it with a "breathable" paint. Seems to me it's aimed at hard gloss, but I'm dumb at painting boats. Maybe the smooth finish makes is more washable. My brother started talking my ear off about paints, brushes, rollers, etc, but I managed to steer him away from that into talking about driving down to Florida with me and doing some fishing. He's behind on the new paint formulations, but still prefers oil outside. There's a fine nap roller I had never heard of - already forgot what he called it - that's real good for kitchen enamels, no tipping necessary. Painting can get as complicated as you want it. Just like fishing. But I like to sit back in a gently rocking boat with my rod between my toes and my eyes at least half-closed. Never managed anything close to that when I was painting, no matter how hard I tried. Closest I got is ignore my wife until she does it herself, but that has a lot of downsides. --Vic |
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote:
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss. --Vic |
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:00:45 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss. It's been around for a while, but there is a lot of misinformation about the technique. The video pretty much explains it perfectly. What you want to see sometime is a crew doing roll and tip on a larger boat. I saw a Luhrs painted with six guys from New York - it's all they do is roll and tip hull painting. One guy did the rolling, another the tipping and they just zipped along - painted a 40 footer in about two hours and when all was said and done, sanded and ready to relaunch, you'd swear the hull was brand new. When we had our kitchen redone, I painted the walls using that technique and the gloss was amazing. |
A real mom speaks out
"hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any political leaning claim the highest occurrences? I believe they're down by more than 40% in California, where the schools teach sex ed and contraception. In Texas, where they teach abstinence, they're up substantially. Check those stats...I'm sure you can find them. The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high.[3] The U.S. teenage pregnancy rate was at a high in the 1950s and has decreased since then, although there has been an increase in births out of wedlock.[11] The teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the 1990s; this decline manifested across all racial groups, although teenagers of African-American and Hispanic descent retain a higher rate, in comparison to that of European-Americans and Asian-Americans. **********The Guttmacher Institute attributed about 25% of the decline to abstinence and 75% to the effective use of contraceptives.**********[12] [13] However, as of 2006 the teenage birth rate began to rise once again for the first time in fourteen years.[14] This could imply that teen pregnancy rates are also on the rise, however the rise could also be due to other sources: a possible decrease in the number of abortions or a decrease in the number of miscarraiges, to name a few. The Canadian teenage birth has also trended towards a steady decline for both younger (15-17) and older (18-19) teens in the period between 1992-2002.[15] 3 a b c d e f g h UNICEF. (2001). A League Table of Teenage Births in Rich NationsPDF (888 KiB). Retrieved July 7, 2006. 11 ^ guttmacher.org 12 ^ U.S. Teenage Pregnancy Rate Drops For 10th Straight Year." Retrieved July 7, 2006. 13^ Wind, Rebecca. The Guttmacher Institute. (February 19, 2004). 14^ Teen Birth Rates Up for First Time in 14 Years, U.S. Reports 15 ^ Dryburgh, H. (2002). Teenage pregnancy. Health Reports, 12 (1), 9-18; Statistics Canada . (2005). Health Indicators, 2005, 2. Retrieved from Facts and Statistics: Sexual Health and Canadian Youth - Teen Pregnancy Rates 16^ a b Beginning Too Soon: Adolescent Sexual Behavior, Pregnancy And Parenthood, US Department of Health and Human Services, Retrieved January 25, 2007 17^ a b Teenage Mothers : Decisions and Outcomes - Provides a unique review of how teenage mothers think Policy Studies Institute, University of Westminster, 30 Oct 1998 18 ^ Guttmacher Institute. (2005). Sex and Relationships. Retrieved August 8, 2006. 19 ^ a b U.S.Teen Sexual ActivityPDF (147 KiB) Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2005. Retrieved 23 Jan 2007 Note the cite about abstinence versus contraceptives. Contraceptives usually work. Abstinence education usually does not. Interesting. Some facts I was not aware of. |
A real mom speaks out
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:21:09 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any political leaning claim the highest occurrences? I believe they're down by more than 40% in California, where the schools teach sex ed and contraception. In Texas, where they teach abstinence, they're up substantially. Check those stats...I'm sure you can find them. The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high.[3] The U.S. teenage pregnancy rate was at a high in the 1950s and has decreased since then, although there has been an increase in births out of wedlock.[11] The teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the 1990s; this decline manifested across all racial groups, although teenagers of African-American and Hispanic descent retain a higher rate, in comparison to that of European-Americans and Asian-Americans. **********The Guttmacher Institute attributed about 25% of the decline to abstinence and 75% to the effective use of contraceptives.**********[12] [13] However, as of 2006 the teenage birth rate began to rise once again for the first time in fourteen years.[14] This could imply that teen pregnancy rates are also on the rise, however the rise could also be due to other sources: a possible decrease in the number of abortions or a decrease in the number of miscarraiges, to name a few. The Canadian teenage birth has also trended towards a steady decline for both younger (15-17) and older (18-19) teens in the period between 1992-2002.[15] 3 a b c d e f g h UNICEF. (2001). A League Table of Teenage Births in Rich NationsPDF (888 KiB). Retrieved July 7, 2006. 11 ^ guttmacher.org 12 ^ U.S. Teenage Pregnancy Rate Drops For 10th Straight Year." Retrieved July 7, 2006. 13^ Wind, Rebecca. The Guttmacher Institute. (February 19, 2004). 14^ Teen Birth Rates Up for First Time in 14 Years, U.S. Reports 15 ^ Dryburgh, H. (2002). Teenage pregnancy. Health Reports, 12 (1), 9-18; Statistics Canada . (2005). Health Indicators, 2005, 2. Retrieved from Facts and Statistics: Sexual Health and Canadian Youth - Teen Pregnancy Rates 16^ a b Beginning Too Soon: Adolescent Sexual Behavior, Pregnancy And Parenthood, US Department of Health and Human Services, Retrieved January 25, 2007 17^ a b Teenage Mothers : Decisions and Outcomes - Provides a unique review of how teenage mothers think Policy Studies Institute, University of Westminster, 30 Oct 1998 18 ^ Guttmacher Institute. (2005). Sex and Relationships. Retrieved August 8, 2006. 19 ^ a b U.S.Teen Sexual ActivityPDF (147 KiB) Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2005. Retrieved 23 Jan 2007 Note the cite about abstinence versus contraceptives. Contraceptives usually work. Abstinence education usually does not. Interesting. Some facts I was not aware of. Check out Table 20, page 61. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr56/nvsr56_06.pdf |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:00:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss. It's been around for a while, but there is a lot of misinformation about the technique. The video pretty much explains it perfectly. What you want to see sometime is a crew doing roll and tip on a larger boat. I saw a Luhrs painted with six guys from New York - it's all they do is roll and tip hull painting. One guy did the rolling, another the tipping and they just zipped along - painted a 40 footer in about two hours and when all was said and done, sanded and ready to relaunch, you'd swear the hull was brand new. When we had our kitchen redone, I painted the walls using that technique and the gloss was amazing. Works in dining rooms, too. |
A real mom speaks out
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? http://tinyurl.com/58x4jq It's there. And it's right on. We're facing a future of an increase in the number of pregnant unmarried girls who will be following the Palin example. Bet on it. Unwed mother pregnancies have been on the increase for years. Can any political leaning claim the highest occurrences? I believe they're down by more than 40% in California, where the schools teach sex ed and contraception. In Texas, where they teach abstinence, they're up substantially. Check those stats...I'm sure you can find them. The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high.[3] The U.S. teenage pregnancy rate was at a high in the 1950s and has decreased since then, although there has been an increase in births out of wedlock.[11] The teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the 1990s; this decline manifested across all racial groups, although teenagers of African-American and Hispanic descent retain a higher rate, in comparison to that of European-Americans and Asian-Americans. **********The Guttmacher Institute attributed about 25% of the decline to abstinence and 75% to the effective use of contraceptives.**********[12] [13] However, as of 2006 the teenage birth rate began to rise once again for the first time in fourteen years.[14] This could imply that teen pregnancy rates are also on the rise, however the rise could also be due to other sources: a possible decrease in the number of abortions or a decrease in the number of miscarraiges, to name a few. The Canadian teenage birth has also trended towards a steady decline for both younger (15-17) and older (18-19) teens in the period between 1992-2002.[15] 3 a b c d e f g h UNICEF. (2001). A League Table of Teenage Births in Rich NationsPDF (888 KiB). Retrieved July 7, 2006. 11 ^ guttmacher.org 12 ^ U.S. Teenage Pregnancy Rate Drops For 10th Straight Year." Retrieved July 7, 2006. 13^ Wind, Rebecca. The Guttmacher Institute. (February 19, 2004). 14^ Teen Birth Rates Up for First Time in 14 Years, U.S. Reports 15 ^ Dryburgh, H. (2002). Teenage pregnancy. Health Reports, 12 (1), 9-18; Statistics Canada . (2005). Health Indicators, 2005, 2. Retrieved from Facts and Statistics: Sexual Health and Canadian Youth - Teen Pregnancy Rates 16^ a b Beginning Too Soon: Adolescent Sexual Behavior, Pregnancy And Parenthood, US Department of Health and Human Services, Retrieved January 25, 2007 17^ a b Teenage Mothers : Decisions and Outcomes - Provides a unique review of how teenage mothers think Policy Studies Institute, University of Westminster, 30 Oct 1998 18 ^ Guttmacher Institute. (2005). Sex and Relationships. Retrieved August 8, 2006. 19 ^ a b U.S.Teen Sexual ActivityPDF (147 KiB) Kaiser Family Foundation, January 2005. Retrieved 23 Jan 2007 Note the cite about abstinence versus contraceptives. Contraceptives usually work. Abstinence education usually does not. Interesting. Some facts I was not aware of. When I lived in the Jax area, one of the huge fundie baptist churches was still pushing the teen children of its members to stand up in front of the church and take a pledge of abstinence. I thought that was hilarious. Apparently so did the kids, because in every followup that was released when I lived there, the pregnancy rate among the church's teens kept rising. The church preached abstinence until marriage. So...apparently a lot of those teens who took the bait "abstained" until they were 18, then they got married, the wife got pregnant, and shortly thereafter the kids started divorcing in huge numbers. My wife grew up in the bible belt. When we went to her 20th high school reunion, she said she was just astonished at the high number of kids she knew from fundie families who were on their third and even fourth marriages 20 years later. Preaching "abstention" simply is not a valid way to prevent teen births and kids marrying too young. The reverse - teaching promiscuity - is not the answer, either. The answer that seems to work is to make sure every kid, beginning in junior high, gets a solid education in matters sexual in the public schools, and learns the importance of preventing disease and pregnancy through proper contraception. |
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hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:00:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss. It's been around for a while, but there is a lot of misinformation about the technique. The video pretty much explains it perfectly. What you want to see sometime is a crew doing roll and tip on a larger boat. I saw a Luhrs painted with six guys from New York - it's all they do is roll and tip hull painting. One guy did the rolling, another the tipping and they just zipped along - painted a 40 footer in about two hours and when all was said and done, sanded and ready to relaunch, you'd swear the hull was brand new. When we had our kitchen redone, I painted the walls using that technique and the gloss was amazing. Works in dining rooms, too. Does it work in Bedrooms too? ;). |
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:16:51 -0400, hk wrote:
Oh... the 1/2 inch...it was a running joke between my father and me for years. He was 6'2" and as I started growing, he used to kid me that I'd never be any taller. In fact, I did stop at 6'1 for a while, and I thought that was going to be it. But a year later, I grew another inch and a half. We always kidded each other about that "extra half-inch." Until he died. Never confuse height with stature. I never met your father but I'm guessing he had a lot more of that. You need to get help for your self esteem disorder. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=35176 |
A real mom speaks out
"hk" wrote in message . .. CalifBill wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. You are the one who brags about all the sex he got in highschool. And you are divorced also. Yeah, well, I was smart enough to use condoms. Wasn't that vinyl dolls? |
A real mom speaks out
"hk" wrote in message . .. D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? I'm not a mom. But you are a Muther. |
SPAM: more crap from the fat little shit..
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:43:00 -0400, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:00:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:30:08 -0400, JimH wrote: On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:28:12 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: It piqued my curiosity too, since I had never heard of it and used to do house painting with my brother, who was a pro for many years. Good excuse to call him. He never heard of it either, but has used the tipping part when lacquering furniture to get it mirror-like. Just doesn't apply to house painting. But I did get to reminisce about Wooster hog bristles. --Vic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTVVjzbA72U Definitely a technique to look into for a gloss. It's been around for a while, but there is a lot of misinformation about the technique. The video pretty much explains it perfectly. What you want to see sometime is a crew doing roll and tip on a larger boat. I saw a Luhrs painted with six guys from New York - it's all they do is roll and tip hull painting. One guy did the rolling, another the tipping and they just zipped along - painted a 40 footer in about two hours and when all was said and done, sanded and ready to relaunch, you'd swear the hull was brand new. When we had our kitchen redone, I painted the walls using that technique and the gloss was amazing. Works in dining rooms, too. You painted your dining room with gloss? |
A real mom speaks out
hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Unexpurgated comment from a real mom as a pro-choice mother of teenage boys, the fundamentalist view being portrayed nationwide as this teen pregnancy being hailed as a "blessed event" scares the sh** out of me. i live in a rural area that has one of the state's highest teen pregnancy rates. this has been discussed openly in our home because i have witnessed over and over the "joy" little girls portray as they drop out of school and push their baby carriages around town. i have seen the young men drop out of school, get a job to buy diapers just because they had unprotected sex. i have always encouraged my boys to wait to have sex, but i know there are families out there,just like the palins, that will throw a big party for the child-mom who "chooses" to have the baby. i am scared to death of the teen girls who are watching who are hearing just what they want to hear - go ahead - get pregnant. my boys have access to condoms, and i sure hope they use them. and, i can guarantee i keep a closer eye on my boys than sarah palin apparently kept on her daughter. and, even if this pretty young couple gets married, i suppose we'll see another chapter of their "normal" family when they divorce in 3-5 years. How do we know that you didn't author this little snippet? I'm not a mom. But, you are a known liar and modifier when cutting and pasting articles. |
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